Can someone please tell me the difference between hip hop and rap?

I have always thought of hip hop as guys like Common, Kanye, Mos, etc. and rap as guys like Tupac, Bone Thugs, Crime Mob, etc. Some say rap is industry whereas hip hop is "real." To me hip hop is more of a cleaner sense of rap. Rap is ghetto. Hip hop is the anti-ghetto. Rap is more street. Hip hop is more flow. Am I wrong? Am I in the ballpark? Someone help me out here. I love 'em both. I just hate it when people say hip hop is dead when I feel they are talking about rap. They are different genres, and those who say hip hop is dead should at least say it about hip hop and not rap.

Can someone please tell me the difference between hip hop and rap?
i see hip hop and rap as very different. hip hop aims to highlight problems in the black community while i think rap tends to try and glamorize them. to me rappers are ppl like 50 cent, lil wayne, jeezy... and hip hop artists are ppl like common and talib kweli. i prefer hip hop to rap but i do also listen to rap music. i jus dnt like it so much b/c i think some rap lyrics are irresposibly made because they encourage minority youths to engage in bad behaviors and make them think that committing crimes and havin to hustle is cool. but its really not. i agree with nas that hip hop is practically dead.. at least in mainstream music. there is underground hip hop. but hip hop is not the same as it was in the past. i mean what happened to artists like black star, a tribe called quest, pharcyde, etc.





if i were a hip hop artist i would be insulted when ppl consider music by 50 cent or like artists to be hip hop cuz its really not what hip hop was meant to be about.
Reply:I've always known rap to be the actual act of rhyming, and Hip-Hop to be the whole culture (graffiti, cazelle glasses, Kangol hats, beat boxing, breakdancing, etc.). Whew! Took myself back for a moment. Now, I think the Hip-Hop culture is plain old garbage. It's too polluted now.
Reply:rap could be ghetto and be clean like point blank-born and raised in the ghetto





cause u see rap started and it was about being FUNKY


but then ice soemthing screwed up and made a new sub-genre called gansta-rap


and thats when it well down hill....


anyways...





ok hiphop=is a culture , away of living


rap=a genre of music


gansta rap=****.crap.
Reply:there is no diff
Reply:hip hop is useally faster and able to dance 2 rap is like a ryhme fest usally slower and more cousing
Reply:Like others have said, rap is a subset of hip-hop, which consists of 4 core activities (emceeing/rapping, graffing, breaking and djing). Rap contains many subgenres in itself...nerd/backpacker, gangsta, west coast, east coast, etc.





I think KRS-One said it best when trying to differ mainstream rap (pop-rap/gangsta) from other rap (which I really think your question is about) - "Rappers spit rhymes that are mostly illegal, MC’s spit rhymes to uplift they people. Peace, love, unity, and Havin’ fun"
Reply:the spelling?... lol
Reply:lol, what a bunch of newbs!


(except crack-is-bad)





'hip hop' is made of of 4 elements...


djing


rapping


breaking


grafitti





krs1 'rap is something you do, hip hop is something you live'





accept no other answer





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Reply:Now i feel that without Hip hop, there wouldnt be Rap. and as long as there is Rap, there will be Hip hop. the difference i think between hiphop and rap is creativity. hip hop cant be as clean as rap. hip hop spoke about the hood, they spoke of drugs and guns. hip hop made MC's. hip hop was and is a culture and a form of music, just like Rap. hip hop also spoke just a street as rap. in hip hop, when a show was about to go down, the DJ he commanded attention from the people. the people of hip hop know that the DJ is essential. But the DJ wouldnt give the MC his time until he was ready to rock. MC's couldnt get heard without the DJ. hip hop MC's had beef but they didnt threaten each other with gunplay, MC's battled. all a MC needed to battle was a mic, crowd and a beat boxer. The difference is that hip hop didnt care of $200,000 cars. they spoke with a message. hip hop MC are teachers. they spoke of how to get out of the hood. hip hop didnt degrade black/ all women. Rap isnt like that. as you can see as an example, rap today lacks creativity. the rappers are consistent, they glamorize the hood, glamorizing gangsters. they talk about causing bodily harm, talk about jewelry, and ridiculous analogies and metaphors. i dont agree when SOME people say that there isnt a difference. what I HAVE noticed with todays rap, is that there arent any risk takers. rap dont bring people together to celebrate. in Rap, it sounds like eveyone is supposed to be hard or tough. for what??? I THINK that rappers dont make their own lane. SOME rappers today got that "if it aint broke dont fix it" mentality. so lets make the snap record, the club record.
Reply:I can't coz there ain't no difference bo!
Reply:oh yes your defenitley right when you said "I just hate it when people say hip hop is dead when I feel they are talking about rap. They are different genres, and those who say hip hop is dead should at least say it about hip hop and not rap." people dont understand that when I get mad when people ask is "hip hop dying?" or is "hip hop dead?" because HIP HOP artists are doing their thing like the ones you named(lupe, common, kanye, mos def,etc yall know who they are), and the RAP artists(anyone can be a rapper even you) are making music you dont like because your thinking that it is hip hop when they are two different genres... I like some RAP and mostly HIP HOP and I like some of the RAP music because I know the difference between the two, I dont get it mixed up and then say"omg HIP HOP is dead" when I know Im not listening to HIP HOP Im listening to RAP.
Reply:It's all the same. Rap lyrics—often a brash mixture of profanity and street slang—seem to be another reason for the popularity of rap. Unlike traditional rock lyrics, many of which dwell on the subject of teenage romance, rap lyrics often have a more serious message. Some rap speaks out against injustice, racism, and police brutality. At times, though, the rhyming refrains are stated in the most foul, shocking language imaginable. Rap also seems to constitute a rebellion against standards of dress, grooming, and sexual morality. Not surprisingly, rap has become a life-style in its own right. Its adherents are identified by their flamboyant gestures, street slang, and garb—baggy jeans, unlaced high-top sneakers, gold chains, baseball caps, and dark glasses.





At Ephesians 5:10, Christians are told to “keep on making sure of what is acceptable to the Lord.” Considering the reputation rap has made for itself, do you think it would be “acceptable to the Lord” for you to get involved with it? Would a Christian youth want to be identified with a life-style that is deemed unacceptable even by many people of the world?