Monday, May 4, 2009

Street Hip Hop Vs. Club Hip Hop Vs. Hood Hip Hop........???

I know there's people out there saying "This artist is better then This artist!!"


But no one ever says what kind of music is better in Hip Hop OVERALL....Street Hip Hop?...Club Hip Hop?...Or Hood Hip Hop?





If you don't know the difference %26amp; say.."They're all the same"..then move on to the next question please...





Street Hip Hop Artists - Nas, Mobb Deep, Wu Tang, Ice Cube, Common, Talib Kweli, Rakim, Dr Dre, The Game.





Club Hip Hop Artists - Soulja Boy, D4L, Hurricane Chris, Ludacris, Mims





Hood Hip Hop Artists - LiL Wayne, T.I, Birdman, Outkast





Sorry I couldn't think of more artists for Club %26amp; Hood...I hardly listen to them.

Street Hip Hop Vs. Club Hip Hop Vs. Hood Hip Hop........???
which one is beastie boys in, i vote for that one. but looking at the options there i would say street,


"wu tang clan aint nuthin ta f*ck with"
Reply:i think that street and hood hip hop are the same and i like that kind of hip hop better than club hip hop....i also think ti and lil wayne are more of the club hiphop artists as opposed to street and hood hip hop artists such as tupac, ice cube, biggie who sing more about their personal life and street life.
Reply:say what ye want people but underground rap is the BEST!!


like look at solja boy??


like cumon to me thats not even classed as hip hop!
Reply:there is no difference. Whats street? how can you include mobb deep and dr dre alongside common and talib?


isnt the hood' the streets? i think a better classification would be commercial and underground. If you want to go further how about concious rap, organic hip hop, gangsta rap etc.


And what are you talking about you hardly listen to club or hood artists. what the f*ck are Nas, mobb deep, wu tang, ice cube, Dr Dre and the game? have you even heard talibs new album or commons last one "be" (with production by kanye)? well if ya dont know...now ya know





ps hey nice and F, whats the deal? save copying and pasting wikipedia articles for your english assignments, aint no one wanna read an essay about the origins of hip hop on a question like this
Reply:i dno if i had 2 choose it wud b um street den hood den club =]
Reply:Nowadays if you ask most people to give a definition of "rap", they're likely to state that it's the reciting of rhymes to the best of music. It's a form of expression that finds its roots imbedded deep within ancient African culture and oral tradition. Throughout history here in America there has always been some form of verbal acrobatics or jousting involving rhymes within the Afro-American community. Signifying, testifying, Shining of the Titanic, the Dozens, school yard rhymes, prison 'jail house' rhymes and double Dutch jump rope' rhymes are some of the names and ways that various forms of rap have manifested.





Modern day rap music finds its immediate roots in the toasting and dub talk over elements of reggae music. In the early 70's, a Jamaican dj known as Kool Herc moved from Kingston to NY's West Bronx. Here, he attempted to incorporate his Jamaican style of dj which involved reciting improvised rhymes over the dub versions of his reggae records. Unfortunately, New Yorkers weren't into reggae at the time. Thus Kool Herc adapted his style by chanting over the instrumental or percussion sections of the day's popular songs. Because these breaks were relatively short, he learned to extend them indefinitely by using an audio mixer and two identical records in which he continuously replaced the desired segment.





In those early days, young party goers initially recited popular phrases and used the slang of the day. For example, it was fashionable for dj to acknowledge people who were in attendance at a party. These early raps featured someone such as Herc shouting over the instrumental break; 'Yo this is Kool Herc in the joint-ski saying my mellow-ski Marky D is in the house'. This would usually evoke a response from the crowd, who began to call out their own names and slogans.





As this phenomenon evolved, the party shouts became more elaborate as dj in an effort to be different, began to incorporate little rhymes-'Davey D is in the house/An he'll turn it out without a doubt.' It wasn't long before people began drawing upon outdated dozens and school yard rhymes. Many would add a little twist and customize these rhymes to make them suitable for the party environment. At that time rap was not yet known as 'rap' but called 'emceeing'. With regards to Kool Herc, as he progressed, he eventually turned his attention to the complexities of djaying and let two friends Coke La Rock and Clark Kent (not Dana Dane's dj) handle the microphone duties. This was rap music first emcee team. They became known as Kool Herc and the Herculoids.





Rap caught on because it offered young urban New Yorkers a chance to freely express themselves. This was basically the same reason why any of the aforementioned verbal/rhyme games manifested themselves in the past. More importantly, it was an art form accessible to anyone. One didn't need a lot of money or expensive resources to rhyme. One didn't have to invest in lessons, or anything like that. Rapping was a verbal skill that could be practiced and honed to perfection at almost anytime.





Rap also became popular because it offered unlimited challenges. There were no real set rules, except to be original and to rhyme on time to the beat of music. Anything was possible. One could make up a rap about the man in the moon or how good his dj was. The ultimate goal was to be perceived as being 'def (good) by one's peers. The fact that the praises and positive affirmations a rapper received were on par with any other urban hero (sports star, tough guy, comedian, etc.) was another drawing card.





Finally, rap, because of its inclusive aspects, allowed one to accurately and efficiently inject their personality. If you were laid back, you could rap at a slow pace. If you were hyperactive or a type-A, you could rap at a fast pace. No two people rapped the same, even when reciting the same rhyme. There were many people who would try and emulate someone's style, but even that was indicative of a particular personality.





Rap continues to be popular among today's urban youth for the same reasons it was a draw in the early days: it is still an accessible form of self expression capable of eliciting positive affirmation from one's peers. Because rap has evolved to become such a big business, it has given many the false illusion of being a quick escape from the harshness of inner city life. There are many kids out there under the belief that all they need to do is write a few 'fresh' (good) rhymes and they're off to the good life.





Now, up to this point, all this needs to be understood with regards to Hip Hop. Throughout history, music originating from America's Black communities has always had an accompanying subculture reflective of the political, social and economic conditions of the time. Rap is no different.





Hip hop is the culture from which rap emerged. Initially it consisted of four main elements; graffiti art, break dancing, dj (cuttin' and scratching) and emceeing (rapping). Hip hop is a lifestyle with its own language, style of dress, music and mind set that is continuously evolving. Nowadays because break dancing and graffiti aren't as prominent the words 'rap' and 'hip hop' have been used interchangeably. However it should be noted that all aspects of hip hop culture still exists. They've just evolved onto new levels.





Hip hop continues to be a direct response to an older generation's rejection of the values and needs of young people. Initially all of hip hop's major facets were forms of self expression. The driving force behind all these activities was people's desire to be seen and heard. Hip hop came about because of some major format changes that took place within Black radio during the early 70's. Prior to hip hop, black radio stations played an important role in the community be being a musical and cultural preserver or griot (story teller). It reflected the customs and values of the day in particular communities. It set the tone and created the climate for which people governed their lives as this was a primary source of information and enjoyment. This was particularly true for young people. Interestingly enough, the importance of Black radio and the role djs played within the African American community has been the topic of numerous speeches from some very prominent individuals.





For example in August of '67, Martin Luther King Jr addressed the Association of Television and Radio Broadcasters. Here he delivered an eloquent speech in which he let it be known that Black radio djs played an intricate part in helping keep the Civil Rights Movement alive. He noted that while television and newspapers were popular and often times more effective mediums, they rarely languaged themselves so that Black folks could relate to them. He basically said Black folks were checking for the radio as their primary source of information.





In August of 1980 Minister Farrakhon echoed those thoughts when he addressed a body of Black radio djs and programmers at the Jack The Rapper Convention. He warned them to be careful about what they let on the airwaves because of its impact. He got deep and spoke about the radio stations being instruments of mind control and how big companies were going out of their way to hire 'undignified' 'foul' and 'dirty' djs who were no longer being conveyers of good information to the community. To paraphrase him, Farrakhon noted that there was a fear of a dignified djs coming on the airwaves and spreading that dignity to the people he reached. Hence the role radio was playing was beginning to shift...Black radio djs were moving away from being the griots.. Black radio was no longer languaging itself so that both a young and older generation could define and hear themselves reflected in this medium.





Author Nelson George talks extensively about this in his book 'The Death Of Rhythm And Blues'. He documented how NY's Black radio station began to position themselves so they would appeal to a more affluent, older and to a large degree, whiter audience. He pointed out how young people found themselves being excluded especially when bubble gum and Europeanized versions of disco music began to hit the air waves. To many, this style of music lacked soul and to a large degree sounded too formulated and mechanical. In a recent interview hip hop pioneer Afrika Bambaataa spoke at length how NY began to lose its connection with funk music during this that time. He noted that established rock acts doing generic sounding disco tunes found a home on black radio. Acts like Rod Stewart and the Rolling Stones were cited as examples. Meanwhile Black artists like James Brown and George Clinton were for the most part unheard on the airwaves. Even the gospel-like soulful disco as defined by the 'Philly sound' found itself losing ground. While the stereotype depicted a lot of long haired suburban white kids yelling the infamous slogan 'disco sucks', there were large number of young inner city brothers and sisters who were in perfect agreement. With all this happening a void was created and hip hop filled it... Point blank, hip hop was a direct response to the watered down, Europeanized, disco music that permeated the airwaves.. FYI around the same time hip hop was birthed, House music was evolving among the brothers in Chicago, GoGo music was emerging among the brothers in Washington DC and Black folks in California were getting deep into the funk. If you ask me, it was all a response to disco.





In the early days of hip hop, there were break dance crews who went around challenging each other. Many of these participants were former gang members who found a new activity. Bambataa's Universal Zulu Nation was one such group. As the scene grew, block parties became popular. It was interesting to note that the music being played during these gigs was stuff not being played on radio. Here James Brown, Sly %26amp; Family Stone, Gil Scott Heron and even the Last Poets found a home. Hence a younger generation began building off a musical tradition abandoned by its elders. Break beats picked up in popularity as emcees sought to rap longer at these parties. It wasn't long before rappers became the ONLY vocal feature at these parties. A microphone and two turntables was all one used in the beginning. With the exception of some break dancers the overwhelming majority of attendees stood around the roped off area and listened carefully to the emcee. A rapper sought to express himself while executing keen lyrical agility. This was defined by one's rhyme style, one's ability to rhyme on beat and the use of clever word play and metaphors.





In the early days rappers flowed on the mic continously for hours at a time..non stop. Most of the rhymes were pre-written but it was a cardinal sin to recite off a piece of paper at a jam. The early rappers started off just giving shout outs and chants and later incorporated small limricks. Later the rhymes became more elaborate, with choruses like 'Yes Yes Y'all, Or 'One Two Y'all To The Beat Y'all being used whenever an emcee needed to gather his wind or think of new rhymes. Most emcess rhymed on a four count as opposed to some of the complex patterns one hears today. However, early rappers took great pains to accomplish the art of showmanship. There was no grabbing of the crotch and pancing around the stage. Pioneering rapper Mele-Mel in a recent interview pointed out how he and other acts spent long hours reheasing both their rhymes and routines. The name of the game was to get props for rockin' the house. That meant being entertaining. Remember back in the late 70s early 80s, artists weren't doing one or two songs and leaving, they were on the mic all night long with folks just standing around watching. Folks had to come with it or be forever dissed.





out (Fat Back Band's King Tem III' and Sugar Hill Gang's 'Rapper Delight'), hip hop culture had gone through several stages. By the late 70's it seemed like many facets of hip hop would play itself out. Rap for so many people had lost its novelty. For those who were considered the best of the bunch; Afrika Bambaataa, Chief Rocker Busy Bee, Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Four (yes initially there were only 4), Grand Wizard Theodore ad the Fantastic Romantic Five, Funky Four Plus One More, Crash Crew, Master Don Committee to name a few had reached a pinnacle and were looking for the next plateau. Many of these groups had moved from the 'two turntables and a microphone stage' of their career to what many would today consider hype routines. For example all the aforementioned groups had routines where they harmonized. At first folks would do rhymes to the tune of some popular song. The tune to 'Gilligan's Island' was often used. Or as was the case with he Cold Crush Brothers, the 'Cats In the Cradle' was used in one of their more popular routines. As this 'flavor of the month' caught hold, the groups began to develop more elaborate routines. Most notable was GM Flash's' Flash Is to The Beat Box'. All this proceeded 'harmonizing/hip hop acts like Bel Biv DeVoe by at least 10 years.





The introduction of rap records in the early 80s put a new meaning on hip hop. It also provided participants a new incentive for folks to get busy. Rap records inspired hip hoppers to take it to another level because they now had the opportunity to let the whole world hear their tales. It also offered a possible escape from the ghetto.... But that's


another story..we'll tell it next time.




















Believe it or not, rap has been around for over 23 years. In fact the first ever rap tune to be pressed on vinyl was "Rapper's Delight", by the Sugarhill Gang in the late 70s. Since then rap has evolved from a fad to a street party. Rap music is an element of a larger culture that encompasses rap, baggy clothing, break-dancing, graffiti, vocabulary and a general lifestyle. This popular culture is generally referred to as hip-hop. Rap made its way to our shores in the early 1980s, as early as 1983. DJ Blaze, one of the best known hip-hop DJs in South Africa, first got into it in 1983 when a movie called Beat Street was showing in his neighbourhood. "I began DJing in 1990," he states. "I liked the scratching and the mixing you know, the sound that DJs made when they were playing."








Hip-hop is the way of portraying skills, creativeness, teaching righteousness and feeding the listeners with knowledge of self.





t all started in the summer of 1973 in New York City... A young man named Kool Herc, having come from Jamaica three years earlier, began spinning in the parks in the South Bronx... What made Herc different than most DJs was his "looping" of certain parts of records... What he would do is take the phattest part of a song (called a "break") and replay it back and forth using two turntables and a mixer... A new song of sorts was created -- a repeating groove -- that kids in the parks would dance to...





It spread, and along with Kool Herc, Afrika Bambaataa and Grandmaster Flash began pumping this new sound... They primarily spun in parks concentrated in the Bronx, but began to expand into the other boroughs (i.e. Queens, Brooklyn, etc...), DJing at public schools or fire halls as well..





nvariably, MCs (Master Of Ceremonies or Mic Controller) began to sprout up... The title of "first MC" has been widely debated... Some say it was DJ Hollywood, but most die-hard historians of hip hop would point to a man in Kool Herc's crew named Coke La Rock... Rapping started simply as getting on the microphone and "shouting out" kids at the party -- thanking them for coming out... Eventually, it evolved into saying catch phrases to excite the crowd, such as, "Now throw ya hands in the air / And wave em like you just don't care / And if you got on clean underwear / Let me here you say 'Oh Yeah' "... At which point, the crowd would yell, "Oh yeah"... This type of interaction, while the DJ was spinning breaks, led to a more evolved form of MCing where rappers would brag about themselves (i.e. how fly they were, their sexual prowess, their lyrical skills, etc...) or just talk about the party...





Breakdancers were also a vital part of the hip hop culture, as they represented the innovative dancing segment of the crowd, so-to-speak... Their moves were composed of both fluid and sporadic body movements... It started as "b-boying" with little dance steps, then incorporated the "popping", "locking", "freezing", and "spinning" most people recognize today... The Rock Steady Crew represented the pinnacle... Other crews set their sites on RSC, but none could take their throne... On a side note, the term, "B-Boy", was created by Kool Herc to describe those in the crowd "b-boying" or those in the crowd rocking the b-boy look (Lee jeans, mockneck shirts, name plates,etc...) ... Among the first b-boys were the ****** Twins who came to just about every jam, Herc spun at...





The importance of graffiti can not be overlooked, as a lot of graf heads went to jams and represented the hip hop culture visually... They added a dimension to the music... They spray painted hip hop on walls and subway cars... Some of note include Zephyr, Lee, Phase2, Dondi, and Futura2000...





Stay up,


Ginny C
Reply:it all sucks


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