Hip hop is still dead?

if mobb deep was as good as they were back in 95, 2pac was still alive, dre was still droppin bombs, snoop still had it, and if noone had come up with "dirty south hip hop" then maybe hip hop would still be alive. seriously the only hip hop from the 00's era i can stand is nas, mos def, common, and talib kweli, and some snoop dogg. i mean hip hop sucks now. first of all, theese ****** are just making up words like ballin, and so many rappers today are so uncreative like lil jon who can apperantly only say YEAH, WHAT, and OKAY. and MIMS who said "this is why im hot" 4395743957 times in one song. and so many rappers boastin about there hoes, there chains, there guns, there money, there homies, and there clothes. when really, most rappers today make about as much money as a middle school math teacher, so basically there bragging about sh*t that they dont even got. i mean most of the hip hop records being sold today are being bought by white 12 year olds. (to be continued...

Hip hop is still dead?
i agree with Big Mac... everything is to repititive!!! Everything comin out is just dance music! I wanna go back to the '96 era. I cant even remember the last cd i bought!
Reply:I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT... WHEN HIP HOP WAS ABOUT MUSIC AND MEANING NOT, TELLING US HOW MUCH MONEY THEY GOT IN THE BANK OR THAT YOUR BALLING OR SILLY THINGS LIKE ICE AND CHRIS... HOW REALLY CARES. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE REGULAR HIP HOP THAT FIRST CAME OUT?
Reply:First, I gotta say big ups to easy_baby and C.O.G. for recocnizing that hip hop is a culture, not a genre of music...True hip hop fans, indeed !! Now, where are the rest of the true hip hop fans?? lol





Hip hop is not dead now, and never will die, as long as their are people out there who actually know what real rap is and the true meaning of hip hop. When I was growing up (I'm 28 now) and I started listening to rap, my family always thought it was just a "phase" and that I would grow out of it. But here I am, almost 20 years later and I'm still a devout hip hop head. So as long as there are people out there like that, then hip hop can never die.





I answered in an earlier question that hip hop is not dead, but, more like...hip hop has cancer. You can beat cancer and go on living a normal life, but it's not easy to conquer it. The "cancerous" elements in rap/hip hop right now, are these endless songs with meaningless content (for a few examples....King Kong, Chicken Noodle Soup, Buy You A Drank, It's Goin' Down, This Is Why I'm Hot, Party Like A Rock Star, oh my god, I could go on and on and on, but I'll stop)....





The artists who write these songs are a poison, or cancer to real hip hop. Rap blew up, and now it's a "lean, mean, money makin' machine". You can't put all the blame on the artists however, because they are just feeding the superficial rap fans what they want to hear, what's gonna make them get payed. And you have to blame the greedy record labels who find all these nonsense artists and sign them because they already know who makes up the majority of rap album sales, and they know what the majority wants to hear.....





So, I'm not being sh*tty about this, but for those of you who ARE listeners of rap and you buy into all this nonsense and you go out and buy the 50 Cent albums, instead of the Mos Def albums, then you can only blame yourself for the theory that hip hop is dead. If you don't want to hear all the garbage that the radio stations play, then STOP listening to the stations. You might think that you alone cannot change the direction of hip hop, and you're right....But if every single one of us "true" hip hop fans completely stop listening to FM radio stations, and we completely stop buying the 50 Cent albums, then we, together, can make a statement...not just to the radio stations, but also to the artists and their record labels......





Think about it...If all the true hip hop heads stop buying the garbage cd's, and only buy cd's of the real rappers (mostly underground), and we influence our friends, and then maybe our friends begin to do the same thing...and so on....then, in time, rap album sales for the 50 Cents' and Young Jocs' will begin to decrease, and album sales for the Mos Def's and Talib Kwelis' will begin increasing....And what do record labels do?.....the jump on the band waggon....Right, right??





Yeah, it's a long shot....but isn't it worth giving it a try? Who knows, maybe we can change the direction of hip hop ourselves, and bring the real sh*t back





I have already started doing my part...In the past 2 or 3 years, the only albums I have bought have been by artists such as Immortal Technique, Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Lupe Fiasco, etc......I haven't bought one single "commercial rapper" album in this entire time period....I swear to God...because I got tired of being dumber by the end of songs lol....





And I very rarely listen to the radio anymore, and I have not turned my TV to BET or MTV or MTV2 in probably (and honestly)....a year or so





So, if you are a fan of real rap, and you're sick of the sh*t they play on the radio all day long....then do something about it....do your part.....let's start our own movement and bring back music that has meaning





Finally, my last "shout out" has to go to.....vincent g......Why are you answering a question in the "hip hop" category if you hate it so much?? Are you lonely, or are you just trying to be annoying?? Oh, poor baby, you must need some attention....So there....I gave you some attention.....Now go annoy who ever "your" friends are, or whoever you share interests with and leave us grown ups alone !!
Reply:hip hop never died and never will just cuz 2pac eazy-e an biggie don't mean dat hip hop is dead i take dat personally so quit hatin on hip hop if u dont like it som much then just listen to country,rock, or pop or sumthin else
Reply:Rap music (in heavy rotation) seems repetitive and stripped of artistic growth. That's the key to going platinum; record labels and artist know that. Most people have no clue how much money these artist get paid. Most of them are in debt to a recored label and need to go at least gold to break even. Rap is a business and lots of people eat off of it (Rappers get paid last). I don't believe that hip hop is dead; the media (radio and TV) makes it seem that way because of the artist that they decide to play (more MIMS and less Mos Def).
Reply:Hip Hop isn't dead. It just changed. Honestly I dont really even listen to the lyrics of the songs sometimes. If the beat is hot and I can dance to it then I like it. I love dirty south hip hop. That music keeps me hype.
Reply:Preach, brotha, Preach
Reply:To say hip hop is dead is to say the people of the hip hop culture are "culturally" dead.





The wages of sin is death. I believe that the awakening of so many people to the detriments of "most" (not all) "hip hop" music, shows that God is changing the hearts of the people so that we can be turned away from that which kills us and does not bring life to us. There is a lot of life inspiring music that has "hip hop" elements (emceeing, certain types of beats, etc.) in it. Also, this music still speaks to the everyday situation of the common person, whether from the suburbs, "ghetto", trailer parks or even other countries. For examples to what I am talking about, feel free to check out the links below. Peace........
Reply:hell no its very much still alive
Reply:hip hop is not dead, its just living a sh*tty life. yeah, its just a money making business now. from 1985-1994 were the best yrs. some groups off-top-- blackmoon, smifn wesson, tribe called quest, nas, rakim, krs, biggie, pac, big L, common, blackstar... it goes on and on! BUT the underground is very much alive today. there are a BUNCH of very talented artist son the underground scene with good/great stuff- cannibal ox, aesop rock, brother ali, company flow, etc, so you can find good stuff if you look a bit hard. ( btw, no need for the usage of the n-word in your question. )
Reply:In my opinion hip hop will never be dead.Everything that comes out today should not be considered hip-hop. Some people just go in the studio and then put a song out. Then they want to call it hip hop when they are not talking about nothing in their songs.If you don't like mainstream music you should listen to underground hip hop.Underground music sounds better to me because they don't just sit there and make what everyone else is making.Songs that are out now sound so repetitive to me it's ridiculous.Some of the rappers that used to be good kind of slacked off to me.
Reply:What you wrote there reminded me of how my dad used to tell us that the Beatles are so much better than Metallica, and how my grandparents would say that Elvis made the devil's music.








And don't you people dare forget the Roots and Dead Prez in your list of rappers keeping it real!!!
Reply:no hip hop is not dead it never waz and never will b!!!!
Reply:.ummwell ..yea dog its the way you say and see it . hip-hop is kinda gonne but some ppl are making efforts trinn to resurrect it so ...dunno man maybe your right maybe not but all ..RAPERS ..Like 50 Cent and others are singing about theyr cars jwls and hoes .but we have to admit soem songs where cool and had a small mesaje but with time, fame gets up to theyr brain. So get used to it :) keep it flowin your stile stop listenin to others ;)
Reply:Lindsey: If you don't like rap, then why the hell are you here? Go talk about your rock or pop sh*t.





Illmatic, you do make a very good point about this. However, I am from the South, so I'll feel a little differently than you do. There's only a handful of rappers I like right now (Lil' Wayne, Young Jeezy, Juelz, T.I., and Jay-Z).





But to me, people are just in this game for the money. Record companies want to sell whatever is catchy and whatever you hear on the radio. I'm sick of hearing T-Pain on the radio, or the rest of those guys who think they're good.





I won't say Hip-Hop is dead because its certainly very popular. But I will say its going down in terms of quality.
Reply:yo hip hop aint dead


mainstream hip hop been ****** up something fierce by mtv and the radio


but


Kool G Rap


Krs-One


Nas


Big Daddy Kane


Rakim


and all them old school boys still here.





Then we got our underground boys


immortal technique


mos def


pharoahe monch


M.O.P


talib kweli


rass kass


and all them doing there thing.





Bob misses mainstream hip hop and all the emcees we lost both physically and lyrically, but we cannot just mop around saying hip hop is dead we gotta fight to get mainstream hip hop back, pop ******* like lil wayne and mims got the radio and the spotlight on them, but bob says their music is garbage and its time to take the spot light back. WITH REAL HIP HOP AND NOT THIS POP GARBAGE BEING CALLED HIP HOP
Reply:hip hop is only dead if you want it to be.


To me, hip hop will never die because i love it so much and i know whats good and i listen to whats good.


I go back listen to the classic like "resoanble doubt" and "illmatic" and i realize and not lose sight of what hip hop is all about.I lova all types of music and everybody got their own preference and my preference is real hip hop. Im talking a str8 all hits real hip hop album. But from an optimist point of view, hip hop didn't die like they said. Its just evolving and changing to popular standards. It minght not be for the good of the culture, yes hip hop is a culture, but everything changes. People just gotta remember their roots and where they came from and come in the game intelligent and make a difference you know. Don't conform to the standards, do like lupe and kip push and and bring a lil break dancing back. lol


But untill i die, i will always love hip hop and til then it will remain alive in me.
Reply:Why don't you learn to write an English sentence before you bore people with your nonsense. Hip Hop is not and can never be called music. It is both noise and trash, as is rap and metal.


There is never an excuse for poor spelling, bad grammar, or taste.
Reply:In the words of Talib Kweli; ''Hip-hop ain't dead, it was just asleep''


There are still amazing, real rappers out there. I just think the vast majority of them are incredibly underrated and still underground.
Reply:well dirty south rap aint bad dats all i listen to da thing is depends who u talkin bout


if u listen to sum dj screw from da 90's dan dat was good


but yea u rite now rap has fallen off it aint like back in da day i guess it is dead. i only listen to old skool i dont listen to new rap its too repetitive and its weak as ****
Reply:Im 27, lived on both coasts, and I agree that POP hip hop today is mostly wack as hell. I havent been able to listen to fm radio for at least 4 years. I listen to Mos, Talib, Common, Slum Vilage. Kanye's talented as hell, too. But other than that (in hip hop anyway), there's nuthin new on the radio that I care to listen to! The last hit I really loved was Amerie- One thing. There was some good stuff in the early 2000's but hip hop is getting progresively worse, and I have to look underground. There are some great soul artists I like now, though.
Reply:no offense but i wish that all hip-hop/rap would die and stay dead