Hip-Hop is DEAD, Nas, thanks for putting that out for everyone, but now that hip-hop has turned to mush, and Posers like Solja Boy, D4L, Yung Jock ( is that how its spelled?) and the other Fool with "eh bay bay", with his brilliant line,
"When I Holler Ay Bay Bay
I Finna Get My Groove On
Its So Hot Up In Da Club
Dat I Ain't Got No Shoes On...-"-Hurricane Chris
You can tell that Hip-Hop is dead (i like the part that he talks about not having shoes on.. cause its so hot you know)
But what Im Asking, is what are your favorites, Name youre favorite Hip-Hop artists, and a particular song you like from them if you want.
Ill Start with my Favorites...
Nas-Illmatic- "Memory Lane", "NY State Of Mind" Part I, II, "It Aint Hard To Tell" and "Black Republicans" from the Recent Hip-Hop is dead Album
Notorious B.I.G.- Ready To Die- "Who Shot Ya", "Suicidal Thoughts", "Everyday Struggle", "Unbelievable"
These Are Just Some, i love tons of other Artists,All The Greats and ones like Lupe Fiasco...
All On Hip-Hop, Hip-Hop Is Already Dead, No Denying That, What Are youre favorite REAL Rappers?
you gotta get off that mainstream **** and get to the underground stuff...just to name a few artists...
andre nickatina
equipto
atmosphere
living legends (murs, grouch,eligh,scarub,sunspot jonz)
immortal technique
jedi mind tricks
wu tang
hieroglyphics
outerspace
Reply:I wouldn't say Hip-Hop is dead, but most of the songs now have absolutely no meaning.
My favorites:
2pac- "Only God Can Judge Me", "Who Do You Believe In", and "Hail Mary"
Nas- "Life's a *****", "Live Now", and "Hope"
Outlawz- "Nobody Cares", "Ghetto Gutta", and "Hang On"
Notorious B.I.G.- "Ready to Die", "Suicidal Thoughts", and "Hypnotize"
Reply:lupe n gemini we on is good. kanye west is just great. rick ross is underatted. there is some nice cats out there
Reply:Expand a little bit, stop only looking for the new Nas, Common, and Jay-Z album. Percee P just released an album, he's been rapping since the 80s, Army Of The Pharoahs new CD is coming out in three days. If you don't want to look into them then fine, but stop telling me there is no denying hip-hop is dead, because I'm not denying hip-hop is dead, you are denying hip-hop is as good as always.
Reply:Chamillionaire for sure. You should watch some of his videos on youtube. he's as real as you get
Reply:Nas is certainly my favorite hip-hop artist. I also enjoy listening to 2Pac, Talib Kweli, Chamillionaire, The Perceptionists, and a few more. =)
Reply:You're right but Nas is wack too brother. He's a hypocrite Islamo-Christian-Hindu-Don't Know What The F*ck he is. You wanna hear an ill MC who is doing it today, then listen to Sean Price. This Hurricane Chris, Souljah Boy **** makes you wanna kill yourself, doesn't it?
Reply:common ( i used to love h.e.r is dope)
slick rick (hey young world is dope)
krs--one
wu tang clan (cream is dope)
talib
lupe
tupac
rakim (aint no joke is dope)
immortal technique
***** all dem others. ya right. hip hop is def dead. take us back to the old days.
Reply:I love the classic rap. The Chronic with Dr. Dre. still hits me hard. Biggie, Juicy, run dmc , and so on. thanks. I love Nas.
Reply:*** that..Hip Hop is Alive and well...im sick of yall comin on here cryin that Hip Hop is dead ish, yall worse than the ppl who come here and bash the music
Reply:hip hop will never die but just multiply
Reply:I only like a few Outkast songs, and Timbaland/Pharrell
Monday, May 4, 2009
East Coast Hip Hop Bias?
It's funny to me how the East Coast spins hip hop to it's favor. Back in the late 80's a huge amount of the East Coast rappers were wearing baggy pants with funny high top fades dancing and rapping. MC Hammer came out doing the same thing. The East Coast had no problem with this until Hammer went Diamond. Then he wasn't real hip hop. Now I see the East Coast hatin on the South. When they brag about Jay Z who attempts to rap like southern MC's and Mims beat sounding like lil Jon. I love the East Coast but the bias is obvious. Hip Hop belongs to everyone not just the East Coast. Just imagine if the south said that everyone who made jazz and blues were not true artist because they didn't come from the South. Hip Hop is the "ONLY" genre of music that has this bias. How is Nelly not hip hop but Biz Markie is hip hop. Why does Lil John get bothered for being a rapping DJ. But Swizz Beats gets a free pass. They only say something when someone not from the East blows up. That's pure Hatoration
East Coast Hip Hop Bias?
I think its wack when one part of hip hop hates on another part. Like ny hating on the south is stupid. Let them do what they do you do what you do and it will all be good. NY is the birthplace of hip hop but it doesnt make you the king of hip hop. It changes from time to time. West coast, East cost, Southside, Midwest whateva its all hip hop. Stop the hating.
Reply:Boy Sam I am feeling your questions. LOL It's funny cause we both have different views on them. Being from the East Coast I would have to say that's not 100% true. I would not say East coast is hating on the south it is just that the East has produced in my opinion some of the best MC's. I am not saying the South or the West for that matter does not have some hot azz MC's because they do, they should be no need for them to name them cuz we all know who the sh*t is and who is not. Personally I am getting so sick of all this what I call bubble gum hip hop they have out right now and its sad to say but most of it is coming from the South. Pop lock and drop it, lean wit it rock wit it, chain hang low, (and from the East) my lip gloss is poppin.... shall I go on. That to me is not hip hop. Real reconize real and Lil John is one nice producer, Lil Wayne is hot as hell right, jeezy and so on. And as for Swizz Beats, LOL I think his album should be burned cuz it is nothing but pure thrash.
Don't mean to say it honey but I think you are the one hating. If you are not the kind of person to see talent and not where they come from then maybe you are a bit bias as well.
No thumbs down please LMAO.
Reply:Did u drink a bottle of haterade? jk
Anyone that thinks Hip Hop is based on one "Coast" has a problem. I'm form NYC and we (me and everyone that I know) respect all types of Rap from all over. You also have East Coast Rappers getting on remixes with Southern Artist. I do know some people (in NYC) that feel Southern Rap at this point is a bit repetitive (snap, lean, rock, shake, money, girls, cars ect.), but not because it's from the South; it's the content, and that goes for some East Coast artist as well. Ask any East coast hip hop head about OutKast, Arrested Development and the Geto Boys and most likely they will not say anything bad.
Reply:There is an East Coast bias....and it should be:
I used to tell people all the time, if you're not from New York (and I'm not), Hip-Hop is an "import". New York (Bronx specifically) is where Hip-Hop started. Since the early days in the late 70's it's been "exported" from the streets of the Big Apple to all over the country and the world.
The West got its due. The South is now getting its due. You're right, no one should be hatin' on the success coming out of regions outside of New York. But there's a flip side to your question. I think New York don't get enough props for CREATING a culture that now everyone can get their own little piece of.
I got much love for the south, west, mid west, international...
But I don't care who's hot "today", like Busta Rhymes said, New York "gave birth to all of this sh*t!"
Reply:When they tried to overtake the lesbian community they went a little too far. My sisters and I challenged them to a softball tournament complete with trophies and a keg of beer, which they lost quite handily. We also got a little rowdy on our Harleys, and that scared them off. So, they are not invincible as you say.
Reply:Three points:
1) I don't think any real rapper on any coast has ever had any respect for MC Hammer
2) Hip-Hop is based on biting off other people and innovating it
3) Feuds have fueled record sales in rap for over 25 years now. If there was no money involved, nobody would have a god damn issue with anyone. I don't know who is calling out all the people you're saying, but chances are that they're looking to make a name or defend the one they already have, thus creating more record sales.
Reply:bob from westcoast, but been bumpin east coast since bob was 4 and therefor is gonna be biased, anyways.
the way bob sees things, it does not matter where you are from, the raw talent and lyrics speak for themselves. Bob is against pop mtv/radio rap in general, it just so happens a good amount of these pop rappers are from the south. Bob and a lot of new york dont like mims, santanna, jim jones, cam'ron, dipset, 50 cent, g unit, jay z ever since he came back from retirement and fat joe ever since big pun died because they are all retarded kiddie pop rappers.
Its sad because a lot of times people who listen to the music are divided just because you live somewhere, people need to get out of their head that just because someones from your hometown does not make them good, dj quik's from mine and he used to be good, but hes straight up garbage. You dont see me going around saying dj quik's the illest even though in the back of my mind i know he has turned into one of them "bubblegum rappers" that he used to chew. Just because someone is from somewhere should not influence your opinion on their style.
If you like that kiddie pop rap garbage and are from the south, but you secretly like mims, you should not not listen to his garbage just because you think thers a east vs south beef going on.
during the death row badboy beef bob never stopped hittin B.I.G, mobb deep or nas up just cause pac was beefin with them or because they was from east because thats idiotic. During the jay z vs nas %26amp; mobb deep on the side beef, even though bob got family in brooklyn, bob never stop hittin nas or mobb deep up. Infact bob stop buying jay z's sh'it cause he was being a *******
Reply:It's funny how defensive the East Coast people get when you put them on blast. yall are some hypocritical haters. yall don't buy your artist music unless they sound like they are from the south (50 cent, Lloyd Banks, Mims, Jay Z, Juels Santana) but then you hate on the south style. Are yall trying to hijack the Souths style. Your right Sam i saw it happen with hammer. They dissed him then stole his style and dances. They did it to Snoop and Tupac. Hated on them then started rapping slow and talking about ready to die and issues. My problem is East Coast if you want to rap like another place do it. But don't talk down on them then copy there style.
Reply:sounds like this thread is a little bias.......what if a rapper from harlem put out some stuff like one of these southern artists...you know a snap/crunk movement songs and bit off da franchise boyz or dj unk with a dance...you mean to tell me all people in the south would be ok with that? your talkin about the east coast hatin on the south...they're practically destroying the genre
Phame: Tupac is from new york
and someone correct me if im wrong but jay-z, 50, lloyd banks, and juelz santana all sound like they're from new york.......
East Coast Hip Hop Bias?
I think its wack when one part of hip hop hates on another part. Like ny hating on the south is stupid. Let them do what they do you do what you do and it will all be good. NY is the birthplace of hip hop but it doesnt make you the king of hip hop. It changes from time to time. West coast, East cost, Southside, Midwest whateva its all hip hop. Stop the hating.
Reply:Boy Sam I am feeling your questions. LOL It's funny cause we both have different views on them. Being from the East Coast I would have to say that's not 100% true. I would not say East coast is hating on the south it is just that the East has produced in my opinion some of the best MC's. I am not saying the South or the West for that matter does not have some hot azz MC's because they do, they should be no need for them to name them cuz we all know who the sh*t is and who is not. Personally I am getting so sick of all this what I call bubble gum hip hop they have out right now and its sad to say but most of it is coming from the South. Pop lock and drop it, lean wit it rock wit it, chain hang low, (and from the East) my lip gloss is poppin.... shall I go on. That to me is not hip hop. Real reconize real and Lil John is one nice producer, Lil Wayne is hot as hell right, jeezy and so on. And as for Swizz Beats, LOL I think his album should be burned cuz it is nothing but pure thrash.
Don't mean to say it honey but I think you are the one hating. If you are not the kind of person to see talent and not where they come from then maybe you are a bit bias as well.
No thumbs down please LMAO.
Reply:Did u drink a bottle of haterade? jk
Anyone that thinks Hip Hop is based on one "Coast" has a problem. I'm form NYC and we (me and everyone that I know) respect all types of Rap from all over. You also have East Coast Rappers getting on remixes with Southern Artist. I do know some people (in NYC) that feel Southern Rap at this point is a bit repetitive (snap, lean, rock, shake, money, girls, cars ect.), but not because it's from the South; it's the content, and that goes for some East Coast artist as well. Ask any East coast hip hop head about OutKast, Arrested Development and the Geto Boys and most likely they will not say anything bad.
Reply:There is an East Coast bias....and it should be:
I used to tell people all the time, if you're not from New York (and I'm not), Hip-Hop is an "import". New York (Bronx specifically) is where Hip-Hop started. Since the early days in the late 70's it's been "exported" from the streets of the Big Apple to all over the country and the world.
The West got its due. The South is now getting its due. You're right, no one should be hatin' on the success coming out of regions outside of New York. But there's a flip side to your question. I think New York don't get enough props for CREATING a culture that now everyone can get their own little piece of.
I got much love for the south, west, mid west, international...
But I don't care who's hot "today", like Busta Rhymes said, New York "gave birth to all of this sh*t!"
Reply:When they tried to overtake the lesbian community they went a little too far. My sisters and I challenged them to a softball tournament complete with trophies and a keg of beer, which they lost quite handily. We also got a little rowdy on our Harleys, and that scared them off. So, they are not invincible as you say.
Reply:Three points:
1) I don't think any real rapper on any coast has ever had any respect for MC Hammer
2) Hip-Hop is based on biting off other people and innovating it
3) Feuds have fueled record sales in rap for over 25 years now. If there was no money involved, nobody would have a god damn issue with anyone. I don't know who is calling out all the people you're saying, but chances are that they're looking to make a name or defend the one they already have, thus creating more record sales.
Reply:bob from westcoast, but been bumpin east coast since bob was 4 and therefor is gonna be biased, anyways.
the way bob sees things, it does not matter where you are from, the raw talent and lyrics speak for themselves. Bob is against pop mtv/radio rap in general, it just so happens a good amount of these pop rappers are from the south. Bob and a lot of new york dont like mims, santanna, jim jones, cam'ron, dipset, 50 cent, g unit, jay z ever since he came back from retirement and fat joe ever since big pun died because they are all retarded kiddie pop rappers.
Its sad because a lot of times people who listen to the music are divided just because you live somewhere, people need to get out of their head that just because someones from your hometown does not make them good, dj quik's from mine and he used to be good, but hes straight up garbage. You dont see me going around saying dj quik's the illest even though in the back of my mind i know he has turned into one of them "bubblegum rappers" that he used to chew. Just because someone is from somewhere should not influence your opinion on their style.
If you like that kiddie pop rap garbage and are from the south, but you secretly like mims, you should not not listen to his garbage just because you think thers a east vs south beef going on.
during the death row badboy beef bob never stopped hittin B.I.G, mobb deep or nas up just cause pac was beefin with them or because they was from east because thats idiotic. During the jay z vs nas %26amp; mobb deep on the side beef, even though bob got family in brooklyn, bob never stop hittin nas or mobb deep up. Infact bob stop buying jay z's sh'it cause he was being a *******
Reply:It's funny how defensive the East Coast people get when you put them on blast. yall are some hypocritical haters. yall don't buy your artist music unless they sound like they are from the south (50 cent, Lloyd Banks, Mims, Jay Z, Juels Santana) but then you hate on the south style. Are yall trying to hijack the Souths style. Your right Sam i saw it happen with hammer. They dissed him then stole his style and dances. They did it to Snoop and Tupac. Hated on them then started rapping slow and talking about ready to die and issues. My problem is East Coast if you want to rap like another place do it. But don't talk down on them then copy there style.
Reply:sounds like this thread is a little bias.......what if a rapper from harlem put out some stuff like one of these southern artists...you know a snap/crunk movement songs and bit off da franchise boyz or dj unk with a dance...you mean to tell me all people in the south would be ok with that? your talkin about the east coast hatin on the south...they're practically destroying the genre
Phame: Tupac is from new york
and someone correct me if im wrong but jay-z, 50, lloyd banks, and juelz santana all sound like they're from new york.......
Will political hip hop suffer if a Democrat is president?
The "political hip hop track" question sparked a thought in my mind. When Reagan, Bush I, and Bush II were in office there was plenty of good political hip hop. However, with Clinton political hip hop was limited. Obviously the hip hop community is a liberal one, so if we elect Obama or Hillary, do we see a decline in political hip hop. Just a thought.
(Obviously, I'm not saying I'd rather have political hip hop than a better system of government, so don't bring up that point)
By the way vote for Brian Moore for president.
Will political hip hop suffer if a Democrat is president?
Yes...because most of the political rappers know ish about politics beyond what the media presents about the president...if a Democrat does win, then Immortal Tech and the like will have their content cut in half
Reply:the early to mid 90s produced some of the most insane hip hop to date, so if thats how it works than bring back the democrats.
Reply:i dont think its a matter of demo/rep hip hop is always going to have some political issues in it.... when it was started (hip hop) that was one of main topics to ryme about.(poverty, guns, drug ect) ... whats going wrong with the government and i feel like no matter who is n office weather it be black , white, latino, demo or rep,,,, we are still basically going to have the same issues..... they are not gonna fix them cuz its set up this way 4 a reason,,,,,,, to keep certain people down while making certain others richer.... just my thoughts i study up alot on thses topics....
Reply:Great question! I don't think it will now - not in this day and age. The damage this Bush administration has done has left scars that will take a very long time to heal. Whoever gets in next has got their work cut out for them.
Plus, I'm not American, so I see first hand the effects that American forgien policy have on the world - although the neo-cons have doen the most damage, the Democrats aren't exactly saints either.
There's still unfair distribution of wealth, paying for healthcare (seriously, in a country where it's free, I just don't get that one), Iraq, Israel/Palestine, inherent racism - the list of things to rap about is endless.
(btw, this answer isn't a diss to Americans, I don't like the way people run things in my country either!).
Edit: I KNEW this answer would get me thumbs down. Oh well.
Reply:nah.. it wont suffer.. there will always be politics to talk about , even if it's positive.. but our country will never be perfect no matter who;s in office and there will always be societal problems to rap about and shed light on... i just think that over the past few years, the poorass job the gov't and president have been doing has EVOKED alot more political songs, than normal because it's so overwhelming how sh!tty of a job this administration has done
Reply:They can rap about Congress lol.
Reply:well history repeats itself, so if there was a decline with the dems. before....it could very well happen again if one slips into the whitehouse
(Obviously, I'm not saying I'd rather have political hip hop than a better system of government, so don't bring up that point)
By the way vote for Brian Moore for president.
Will political hip hop suffer if a Democrat is president?
Yes...because most of the political rappers know ish about politics beyond what the media presents about the president...if a Democrat does win, then Immortal Tech and the like will have their content cut in half
Reply:the early to mid 90s produced some of the most insane hip hop to date, so if thats how it works than bring back the democrats.
Reply:i dont think its a matter of demo/rep hip hop is always going to have some political issues in it.... when it was started (hip hop) that was one of main topics to ryme about.(poverty, guns, drug ect) ... whats going wrong with the government and i feel like no matter who is n office weather it be black , white, latino, demo or rep,,,, we are still basically going to have the same issues..... they are not gonna fix them cuz its set up this way 4 a reason,,,,,,, to keep certain people down while making certain others richer.... just my thoughts i study up alot on thses topics....
Reply:Great question! I don't think it will now - not in this day and age. The damage this Bush administration has done has left scars that will take a very long time to heal. Whoever gets in next has got their work cut out for them.
Plus, I'm not American, so I see first hand the effects that American forgien policy have on the world - although the neo-cons have doen the most damage, the Democrats aren't exactly saints either.
There's still unfair distribution of wealth, paying for healthcare (seriously, in a country where it's free, I just don't get that one), Iraq, Israel/Palestine, inherent racism - the list of things to rap about is endless.
(btw, this answer isn't a diss to Americans, I don't like the way people run things in my country either!).
Edit: I KNEW this answer would get me thumbs down. Oh well.
Reply:nah.. it wont suffer.. there will always be politics to talk about , even if it's positive.. but our country will never be perfect no matter who;s in office and there will always be societal problems to rap about and shed light on... i just think that over the past few years, the poorass job the gov't and president have been doing has EVOKED alot more political songs, than normal because it's so overwhelming how sh!tty of a job this administration has done
Reply:They can rap about Congress lol.
Reply:well history repeats itself, so if there was a decline with the dems. before....it could very well happen again if one slips into the whitehouse
Next time you question the state of hip-hop, think about this?
"Listen...people be askin' me all the time,
'Yo Mos, what's gettin' ready to happen with hip-hop?'
I tell em, 'You know what's gonna happen with hip-hop?
Whatever's happening with us'
If we smoked out, hip-hop is gonna be smoked out
If we doin' alright, hip-hop is gonna be doin' alright
People talk about hip-hop like it's some giant livin' in the hillside comin' down to visit the townspeople
We are hip-hop
Me, you, everybody, we are hip-hop
So hip-hop is goin' where we goin'
So the next time you ask yourself where hip-hop is goin'
ask yourself 'where am I goin'? How am I doin'?
Til you get a clear idea
So...if hip-hop is about the people and hip-hop won't get better until the people get better"
Next time you question the state of hip-hop, think about this?
well i've always said this but whatever, lots of dudes jealous cuz my boy weezy runnin the game rite now.
Reply:that is so true thats kinda what i try to tell my brotha everyday
Reply:So true. Mos Def is the ma n.
Reply:I agree with you, but isnt this a statement and not a question? Like that, that was a question.
shark teeth facts
'Yo Mos, what's gettin' ready to happen with hip-hop?'
I tell em, 'You know what's gonna happen with hip-hop?
Whatever's happening with us'
If we smoked out, hip-hop is gonna be smoked out
If we doin' alright, hip-hop is gonna be doin' alright
People talk about hip-hop like it's some giant livin' in the hillside comin' down to visit the townspeople
We are hip-hop
Me, you, everybody, we are hip-hop
So hip-hop is goin' where we goin'
So the next time you ask yourself where hip-hop is goin'
ask yourself 'where am I goin'? How am I doin'?
Til you get a clear idea
So...if hip-hop is about the people and hip-hop won't get better until the people get better"
Next time you question the state of hip-hop, think about this?
well i've always said this but whatever, lots of dudes jealous cuz my boy weezy runnin the game rite now.
Reply:that is so true thats kinda what i try to tell my brotha everyday
Reply:So true. Mos Def is the ma n.
Reply:I agree with you, but isnt this a statement and not a question? Like that, that was a question.
shark teeth facts
Young Female Fans & Hip Hop...........?
Ya know....I noticed through the Hip Hop section that there's alotta females that say they love Hip hop...BUT yet they saying..."OoOoOoOo I Love Soulja Boy!!!!"...I even read a girl asking a question.."Why do people think K-Fed is a BAD rapper?"
Oh My God yo! Some girls be just coming in here thinking they know about what real Hip Hop is...then they ask.."Why do so many people hate on Soulja Boy %26amp; Hurricane Chris? They're Cute %26amp; I love their songs!!"
I really wish there was an admin so we can delete questions like that!
My Question is: Why do young girls that only know Hip Hop from MTV/BET/VH1 come in here with real Hip Hop heads...then get upset when we put down their wack artist(s)?
They should just stick to their brainwashing channels(MTV/BET) %26amp; not come here not unless they wanna learn what the Realness of Hip Hop is. I'm not saying I know 100% about Hip Hop..but I know enough to answer worth-wild questions!
P.S: I'm not saying it's all Young Girls...but there are some..
Young Female Fans %26amp; Hip Hop...........?
I totally agree with you. Hip-Hop has become commercialized so much. If it has a nice beat and a catchy hook any girl will sing it, even if it is degrading women. Old school cats need to teach these young girls what hip-hop used to be; the art of story telling. Until then they are going to be sucked up in this commercialized society where they love any catchy beat and a snap dance to go along with it.
Reply:It's just taste Most girls like R%26amp;B and The Hip Hop thats made around R%26amp;B influence. It's all on taste really. I listen to it all so I really got to the point where I can tell what is influenced by what now.
Reply:what, people can't have a choice??? I an not young neither do I like s.b., but hey, who are we to judge?? No two people are gonna like all the same stuff, that's just life!
And I do love hip-hop and I know my stuff and can back it up....
Reply:guess its hip hop of their generation, everyone has their own taste in music...even if it his k fed lol
Reply:............yeah ok
Reply:first of all, it's not all girls asking dumb questions about soulja boy, there are plenty of boys with questionable taste on here too.
second, what a generalization. there are definitely some real female hip hop heads in this section. take the time to find them, i'll bet you it's worth it.
Reply:thank you for asking this! when i say somethin bad about soulja boy i get reported or w/e. i think it's sooo funny to listen or look at my friends i-pods who say they LOVE rap or hip hop. soulja boy, that frickin ayy bayy bayy. i ask them what kinda music is "superman that h**"? cuz it's not rap and if that's what hip hop is now, that's sad. i think that you are completely right. k-fed. wtf? i've never been patient enough to listen to one of his songs. i like rap. tupac is like the greatest and i know lotsa people say that, but if it's not on then i don't play music. i just can't say ayy bayy bayy and think it's music. great question! STAR!!
Reply:Amen 2 dat. All da shawtys in my school R like dat. The thing is they cant relate to the realness of true Hip-Hop. Im sure they wouldnt even know a real MC if it slapped dem in da face.
Reply:i understand wat u r talking about i am a young aspired rapper and hip- hop is jus not all hard core rap like im goin to kill him wen i c him on n e thing like that hip hop is diffrent n talks about promblems and not that other dance crave stuff like solija boy...(not hating but his music is not rap he has like soul retro music that u can move too) all im saying iz that hip hop iz diffrent had have diffrent catogorizes of it like hard core underground n stuff but wen a rapper iz cute it helps.......
Reply:Well now, I am a RHH regular and I can say that I know my hip hop...and I can probably share my knowledge with you also. But of course I am not young (well I look and feel like I am) I am 30yrs old and listen to nothing but Hip Hop. And to take up for my young Hip Hop ladies that are in this section I never see questions about those Pop artist you stated (K-Fed, Soulja Boy, Hurricane Chris). Those guys aren't Hip Hop, not even close...maybe be Hip Pop but Mos Def not Hip Hop! There are females of all ages who listen to Hip Hop...and I've learn from some of them also.
So what I suggest is not even pay them no mind when it comes to question you don't like....I mean your not going to change there views. Unless you going to spit some knowledge to them about the history of Hip Hop and there real artist....don't waste your time on them!!
Reply:I've noticed that in the RHH section there is no correct answer or best artist or good question about a artist because people are from all over and some think certain artists are better than the other. So I don't think it'a all about being a hip hop guru it's about learning about different artists and being open minded to the fact that everyone will not like the same thing in here EVER!!! Because since we are over the computer who's to say that people are not just googling or searching there answer so we don't know who is REALLY hip hop in this RHH section!!
Oh My God yo! Some girls be just coming in here thinking they know about what real Hip Hop is...then they ask.."Why do so many people hate on Soulja Boy %26amp; Hurricane Chris? They're Cute %26amp; I love their songs!!"
I really wish there was an admin so we can delete questions like that!
My Question is: Why do young girls that only know Hip Hop from MTV/BET/VH1 come in here with real Hip Hop heads...then get upset when we put down their wack artist(s)?
They should just stick to their brainwashing channels(MTV/BET) %26amp; not come here not unless they wanna learn what the Realness of Hip Hop is. I'm not saying I know 100% about Hip Hop..but I know enough to answer worth-wild questions!
P.S: I'm not saying it's all Young Girls...but there are some..
Young Female Fans %26amp; Hip Hop...........?
I totally agree with you. Hip-Hop has become commercialized so much. If it has a nice beat and a catchy hook any girl will sing it, even if it is degrading women. Old school cats need to teach these young girls what hip-hop used to be; the art of story telling. Until then they are going to be sucked up in this commercialized society where they love any catchy beat and a snap dance to go along with it.
Reply:It's just taste Most girls like R%26amp;B and The Hip Hop thats made around R%26amp;B influence. It's all on taste really. I listen to it all so I really got to the point where I can tell what is influenced by what now.
Reply:what, people can't have a choice??? I an not young neither do I like s.b., but hey, who are we to judge?? No two people are gonna like all the same stuff, that's just life!
And I do love hip-hop and I know my stuff and can back it up....
Reply:guess its hip hop of their generation, everyone has their own taste in music...even if it his k fed lol
Reply:............yeah ok
Reply:first of all, it's not all girls asking dumb questions about soulja boy, there are plenty of boys with questionable taste on here too.
second, what a generalization. there are definitely some real female hip hop heads in this section. take the time to find them, i'll bet you it's worth it.
Reply:thank you for asking this! when i say somethin bad about soulja boy i get reported or w/e. i think it's sooo funny to listen or look at my friends i-pods who say they LOVE rap or hip hop. soulja boy, that frickin ayy bayy bayy. i ask them what kinda music is "superman that h**"? cuz it's not rap and if that's what hip hop is now, that's sad. i think that you are completely right. k-fed. wtf? i've never been patient enough to listen to one of his songs. i like rap. tupac is like the greatest and i know lotsa people say that, but if it's not on then i don't play music. i just can't say ayy bayy bayy and think it's music. great question! STAR!!
Reply:Amen 2 dat. All da shawtys in my school R like dat. The thing is they cant relate to the realness of true Hip-Hop. Im sure they wouldnt even know a real MC if it slapped dem in da face.
Reply:i understand wat u r talking about i am a young aspired rapper and hip- hop is jus not all hard core rap like im goin to kill him wen i c him on n e thing like that hip hop is diffrent n talks about promblems and not that other dance crave stuff like solija boy...(not hating but his music is not rap he has like soul retro music that u can move too) all im saying iz that hip hop iz diffrent had have diffrent catogorizes of it like hard core underground n stuff but wen a rapper iz cute it helps.......
Reply:Well now, I am a RHH regular and I can say that I know my hip hop...and I can probably share my knowledge with you also. But of course I am not young (well I look and feel like I am) I am 30yrs old and listen to nothing but Hip Hop. And to take up for my young Hip Hop ladies that are in this section I never see questions about those Pop artist you stated (K-Fed, Soulja Boy, Hurricane Chris). Those guys aren't Hip Hop, not even close...maybe be Hip Pop but Mos Def not Hip Hop! There are females of all ages who listen to Hip Hop...and I've learn from some of them also.
So what I suggest is not even pay them no mind when it comes to question you don't like....I mean your not going to change there views. Unless you going to spit some knowledge to them about the history of Hip Hop and there real artist....don't waste your time on them!!
Reply:I've noticed that in the RHH section there is no correct answer or best artist or good question about a artist because people are from all over and some think certain artists are better than the other. So I don't think it'a all about being a hip hop guru it's about learning about different artists and being open minded to the fact that everyone will not like the same thing in here EVER!!! Because since we are over the computer who's to say that people are not just googling or searching there answer so we don't know who is REALLY hip hop in this RHH section!!
Hip hop comic book element?
yo! man
I believe that hip hop and comic books mix together perfect.
writing rap rhymes silmular to creating a comic. if graffiti is hip hop art, than a comic book filled with hip hop like figures telling a story through pictures is hip hop to me.
(so) i'm thinking of making a hip cop comic book.
is this a good idea or a bad one.
Hip hop comic book element?
yes, but only if it has sexy hot chicks and plenty of violence
Reply:Hip hop has run its course. Time to focus on good plots over representation of particular cultures.
Reply:It's a good idea, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. As a matter of fact keep all your ideas to yourself, b/c before you know it someone will pick up your idea and claim it as their own.
I believe that hip hop and comic books mix together perfect.
writing rap rhymes silmular to creating a comic. if graffiti is hip hop art, than a comic book filled with hip hop like figures telling a story through pictures is hip hop to me.
(so) i'm thinking of making a hip cop comic book.
is this a good idea or a bad one.
Hip hop comic book element?
yes, but only if it has sexy hot chicks and plenty of violence
Reply:Hip hop has run its course. Time to focus on good plots over representation of particular cultures.
Reply:It's a good idea, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. As a matter of fact keep all your ideas to yourself, b/c before you know it someone will pick up your idea and claim it as their own.
I want your opinion on hip hop and it's impact on society and culture...?
I first want to say I love hip hop, it's one of my first love...at 25, I listen to other genre's other than hip hop, but it's still my fav to listen to.
The media always displays hip hop as having a negative impact on society. I think to an extent they have this correct. Too many young listeners can't seperate lyrics and reality. It use to be that you can only rap about something if it's true, but now rappers are just saying they did things to show they're tough.
Hip hop is so broad, I find that most listeners, especially young listeners are listening to the "wrong" kind of hip hop....they're more keen to 50 cent than Mos Def, or Common.
As a result I find society throws hip hop into a negative bunch even though artists like Talib Kweli conveys that real hip hop is about more than guns and hoes. But of course Talib and similar artists don't make it to MTV.
How can hip hop change it's image? Or for that matter does the majority of hip hop heads want it changed?
I want your opinion on hip hop and it's impact on society and culture...?
I think if a real musician who isn't spewing crappy lyrics doesn't want to be associated with garbage like 50cent or the others you listed, they should create a new genre and not put themselves in the same category.
Reply:I think the best rap music is the angry, deep, intricate, lyrical, without boundaries. But to me, it kind of feels like it's not time to be angry anymore. I just don't think there's much left to say that hasn't been said already. For rappers to last today, I think they really need to talk about what's actually going on today. Global warming, politics, religion, anything! Something they realize that maybe other people don't. It's about being the voice for the people. Saying what's on everybody's mind that they can't say themselves. I don't think rappers are doing that anymore. They're staying cliché. It's not working anymore.
Reply:I dunno if the rappers wud want to change anything now coz it's become a trend and it's sad yeah recently i saw this video by 50 cent xxx pimp something and the video was uncensored and bout the life of how a pimp is.....but just to take it lightly or on a funny note it's ok but if u think of it seriously ur more saddened then enjoy the fact....
I also like hip hop but it has to be real good i mean I liked the rap by eminem in his movie 8mile truly....it did say bbout the fact....but it's as far as it goes good hiphop stuff is hard to come by...and new rappers must feel compelled to compete with the ones who got famous with hoes and guns and drugs and wat not....so maybe a new artist who comes up with something sober will get sidelined due to the publicity they earn in the process...unless somebody makes it so much interesting the current scene is there to rule sadly.
Reply:Rap is just boring as well as Emo.
Reply:aww i wanna answer this question fully, but i got class in a minute, so i've starred it and hopefully i'll remember to come back.
In the meantime i'd like to say the internet has made it possible for younger people to realize that hip hop goes beyond the new 50 cent song. I'm 16 and i've been listening to hip hop for two years now, which is nothing, but i evolved from listening to 50 cent, and the like into listening to percee p, el-p, lord finesse etc through the internet. Which for me means that hip hop will live through the internet, even if it dies out in the mainstream because of MTV approved rappers.
Like i said i'll get back to this. Good question =)
Reply:first off i love "hip-hop" "rap" and any and all music for that matter ! i think one major impact it has had on society is bringing youth together. you have these rich white kids born with silver spoons riding around listening to hard core rap (lol)and i think it gives the two very different social groups almost a common ground...
I really dont like when people say "real hip-hop". music is music and its all an art ! i enjoy mos def and common but in my opinon the lyrics i hear from jay-z, 50 and 2pac (regardless of language and violence) they show young men born into poverty hustleing to survive.. one more thing (in my opinion) when ever a rapper starts out their usually raw and edgey, then once they get rich it seems to become so commercial.
The media always displays hip hop as having a negative impact on society. I think to an extent they have this correct. Too many young listeners can't seperate lyrics and reality. It use to be that you can only rap about something if it's true, but now rappers are just saying they did things to show they're tough.
Hip hop is so broad, I find that most listeners, especially young listeners are listening to the "wrong" kind of hip hop....they're more keen to 50 cent than Mos Def, or Common.
As a result I find society throws hip hop into a negative bunch even though artists like Talib Kweli conveys that real hip hop is about more than guns and hoes. But of course Talib and similar artists don't make it to MTV.
How can hip hop change it's image? Or for that matter does the majority of hip hop heads want it changed?
I want your opinion on hip hop and it's impact on society and culture...?
I think if a real musician who isn't spewing crappy lyrics doesn't want to be associated with garbage like 50cent or the others you listed, they should create a new genre and not put themselves in the same category.
Reply:I think the best rap music is the angry, deep, intricate, lyrical, without boundaries. But to me, it kind of feels like it's not time to be angry anymore. I just don't think there's much left to say that hasn't been said already. For rappers to last today, I think they really need to talk about what's actually going on today. Global warming, politics, religion, anything! Something they realize that maybe other people don't. It's about being the voice for the people. Saying what's on everybody's mind that they can't say themselves. I don't think rappers are doing that anymore. They're staying cliché. It's not working anymore.
Reply:I dunno if the rappers wud want to change anything now coz it's become a trend and it's sad yeah recently i saw this video by 50 cent xxx pimp something and the video was uncensored and bout the life of how a pimp is.....but just to take it lightly or on a funny note it's ok but if u think of it seriously ur more saddened then enjoy the fact....
I also like hip hop but it has to be real good i mean I liked the rap by eminem in his movie 8mile truly....it did say bbout the fact....but it's as far as it goes good hiphop stuff is hard to come by...and new rappers must feel compelled to compete with the ones who got famous with hoes and guns and drugs and wat not....so maybe a new artist who comes up with something sober will get sidelined due to the publicity they earn in the process...unless somebody makes it so much interesting the current scene is there to rule sadly.
Reply:Rap is just boring as well as Emo.
Reply:aww i wanna answer this question fully, but i got class in a minute, so i've starred it and hopefully i'll remember to come back.
In the meantime i'd like to say the internet has made it possible for younger people to realize that hip hop goes beyond the new 50 cent song. I'm 16 and i've been listening to hip hop for two years now, which is nothing, but i evolved from listening to 50 cent, and the like into listening to percee p, el-p, lord finesse etc through the internet. Which for me means that hip hop will live through the internet, even if it dies out in the mainstream because of MTV approved rappers.
Like i said i'll get back to this. Good question =)
Reply:first off i love "hip-hop" "rap" and any and all music for that matter ! i think one major impact it has had on society is bringing youth together. you have these rich white kids born with silver spoons riding around listening to hard core rap (lol)and i think it gives the two very different social groups almost a common ground...
I really dont like when people say "real hip-hop". music is music and its all an art ! i enjoy mos def and common but in my opinon the lyrics i hear from jay-z, 50 and 2pac (regardless of language and violence) they show young men born into poverty hustleing to survive.. one more thing (in my opinion) when ever a rapper starts out their usually raw and edgey, then once they get rich it seems to become so commercial.
Hip Hop is NOT dead?
Y is every1 sayin hip hop is dead. just bcuz sum rappers rap bout money and hos and bing pimps dont mean hip hop dead. if u think hip hop dead then u also think rock is dead cuz all of dat yellin and goth lyrics. u might also think country,pop,and all genres r dead 2. so all u ppl who say hip hop is dead SHUT UP! Bcuz u think hip hop dead then MUSIC DEAD! Right?
Hip Hop is NOT dead?
you are dumb
first learn proper grammar then come back and try to make an arguement
that's why hip hop is dead
people like you support these fake azz rappers
Reply:damn it..it's alive again..better get the shotgun out...There's a zombie going around....
Reply:i listen to every style of music except country. my cd collection numbers well into the thousands, not to mention whatever ive got downloaded on my computer, and the music ive got spans decades. and yeah, hip hop, in its purest form, is dead. this stuff out now....i dont know what that is, but its not the hip hop i first knew. hip hop used to be creative. there used to be lyrics about stuff that actually matterd, with beats that didnt drive people crazy. now a days, it all sounds the same. all you have to do now a days to be a rapper is think of one phrase you can repeat over and over and say it over a beat (this is why im hot, party like a rockstar, like this, my lip gloss is poppin....)...my grandmother could come up with better rhymes...if hip hop isnt dead, its gonna be soon unless someone comes up with something cool and fresh soon. do me a favor. check out Looptroop, and Promoe....thats real hip hop still. those guys constantly come up with something fresh ive never heard before, every time they come out with a new cd. untill someone here in the states comes up with something that fresh and hot, im gonna say that yes, hip hop is pretty much dead
Reply:Most music is dead. To be popular in mainstream rap, you have to be a gangsta or a pimp, to be popular in rock you have to be a gothic guy, who's life is so horrible (yeah, right), etc. It all sounds the same. They both need a couple of acts that are creative and get mainstream play. Very few have been able to do this. Only OutKast, Gnarls Barkley, and Linkin Park (Until recently) have been creative and mainstream at the same time.
Reply:Yes it is. This crap thats coming out now is worthless. Look at Mims. For some reason hes making millions of dollars for saying 5 words over and over. Im tired of talentless people getting millions while the talented are left scraping for money. Crunk needs to be killed. I miss the days when hip hop had meaning not just look at my money look at how im wasting my money on putting shiny in my mouth. Crunk is the murderer of hip hop. What happened to making quality music with meaning? Thats what hip hop was about. Now its just how much money can i make by writing about how hot i think i am. So yes, HIP HOP IS DEAD AND HAS BEEN DEAD SINCE 1999!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...
Reply:Hip Hop is not “dead” per say, but it has lost some of its appeal. I’ve been around long enough to see how Hip Hop used to be, how it’s evolved through the years and what it’s become. I can tell you that it has lost “something.” Part of this has to do with the lack of creativity. Everyone wants to be like everyone else, I don’t see much individualism like I used to. Everything is so redundant. I mean really…how many times are we going to have to watch women bumpin T%26amp;A all up in the video, before someone says, “Enough already!! OK. I’ve seen this before, can we move on now…….?” Seriously, how boring is that? Also, Rappers nowadays are less conscience of what they rap about and seem to focus more on what they’re wearing, social status, and are overly trendy, appealing to only what’s HOT at the time. Therefore, music becomes disposable, since what may be HOT today, could very well be obsolete tomorrow. But if I blame anyone, I blame Clear Channel/Viacom. They will not allow equal airplay to Underground Artists, who are creative and more socially responsible, than say 50 cent or Nelly. If it doesn’t have anything to do with pimpin or hustling money, women, than they don’t play it. Period. Anyway… for me, only listen to rap from the early to mid 90’s, because I get more of an artistic, underground vibe that you just don’t see today. Bottom line, Hip Hop is not totally dead, but it does need to be re-evaluated. Let me say one more thing, because I want to be fair to the younger generation. Maybe Hip Hop is the way it is today, because it’s just a “sign of the times” therefore really cannot be avoided. Well, if that is true, fine. But Hip Hop seems to turn over it’s style about every 5-10 yrs. And we are about 10 yrs into this “bling bling” pimpin stage (started around 96”) so, I think it’s time for it to turn over again and let’s move on to the “next stage” of this brilliant culture we call Hip Hop. Peace.
Reply:'ey yo, Hip hop is a terrible excuse for music.
Rock is not necessarily yelling... rock has wide and broad sub-genres.... if you're talking about yelling you're thinking hard rock or metal.
Rap? It's one genre basically. They make a beat and they speak rhymed lines... i've done it without even trying.
Reply:There no way you are older than 18 making a statement like that. You must be young, possible even born in the 90's. If you listened to hip hop during the 80's and early 90's, you'd know exactly why they say it's dead. Hip Hop has evolved into something that the pioneers of rap, and the original fans of rap cannot relate to whatsoever anymore. It's lost it's originality. It's spirit. I personally cannot identify with mainstream rap that's being produced now days.
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i cant listen to the radio anymore because all i hear is a bunch of nonsense. the mainstream stuff is a bunch of garbage. all these guys talk about is how much money they got, their chains, cars, women they sleep with, or doin some stupid dance. these guys aint sayin anything positive.
btw, record sales of been down for a few years now, but ring tone sales have been up.
hip hop needs a revival
Reply:I think it is dead
Reply:Yeah Hip-Hop is Dead. Some people don't think that but everyone has their own opinion. I say Hip-Hop is dead becuase there aren't any rappers out there who are creative %26amp; don't have the love of hip-hop thy just care about the money. Anyone could pretty much be in the rap game now. Everyone talks about the same thing %26amp; knowone has any skills either. Hip-Hop is also dead becuase of the increase in record sells. 2006 was the worst hip-hop selling year!!! So think about that also. Record sells are decreasing.
Reply:Nope, rock music isn't screaming that's heavy metal. Hip hop is not dead
Reply:Kinfolk Kia $hine said it best in his song "Wow" HIP HOP AINT DEAD, IT LIVES IN THE SOUTH!!
Reply:#1 bright eyes shut tha hell up, ur not funny.
#2 hunni calm down lol its not dead true but it sure is endangered. u gotta addmit theres not too many truely, undenieable talented HIP HOP artist out there but people that support that real stuff keep doin wat ur doin and maybe we can fully revive it!
Reply:Hip is Dead, hate it or love it. With all that crap coming out nowadays its dead.
Reply:hip hop is dead because it isn't what it was back in the 80s-90s only artists that are keepin hip hop alive are underground with no radio airplay or tv exposure heres an example of why its dead
"[Lil Wayne]
I'm just pimping
Baby you got a rule for me
Put your mink on and slide in a cool for me
Hey you gotta get high and go low for me
It's Cash Money young money never know money"
[Canibus]
"I'm the type of n*gga that'll prove it, produce sh*t
Spent so much time in the studio I had to move in
A soldier, who practices West Indian obia
I can drink the poison from a king cobra"
which one is better SERIOUSLY
Reply:so ur kinda saying music is dead but hip hop is dead
Reply:well people sayin hip hop is dead has nothin to do with any other genre, people who say hip hop is dead may not listen to rock or country so they wouldnt be qualified to make such a statement.....and its their opinion, they can say what they want to say...hip hop isnt all music....hip hop may not be dead, but look at the songs dominating airplays nowadays..its an opinional statement, if you dont think so then thats you, but if other people say it, thats their opinion...Personally I feel there are alot of talented artists who just dont get the shine of some radio/tv artists..for example, lupe fiasco's rhymes are better than almost all of the every day radio cats, but he just doesnt get the same exposure
Reply:damnit, i guess i'll hafta shoot it a few more times..
Reply:I'm getting tired of this argument!
If hip hop is dead, than great, stay dead!
LOL
Maybe black people will find something else to do.
I don't want to hear that bull**** excuse that the South killed it either.
Reply:hecks no it ain't dead.
Reply:Hip Hop is not dead it is more alive now than ever, thats why it is influencing the whole world, i agree cuz no genre of music sounds the same as it did when it was first originated
pulling baby teeth
Hip Hop is NOT dead?
you are dumb
first learn proper grammar then come back and try to make an arguement
that's why hip hop is dead
people like you support these fake azz rappers
Reply:damn it..it's alive again..better get the shotgun out...There's a zombie going around....
Reply:i listen to every style of music except country. my cd collection numbers well into the thousands, not to mention whatever ive got downloaded on my computer, and the music ive got spans decades. and yeah, hip hop, in its purest form, is dead. this stuff out now....i dont know what that is, but its not the hip hop i first knew. hip hop used to be creative. there used to be lyrics about stuff that actually matterd, with beats that didnt drive people crazy. now a days, it all sounds the same. all you have to do now a days to be a rapper is think of one phrase you can repeat over and over and say it over a beat (this is why im hot, party like a rockstar, like this, my lip gloss is poppin....)...my grandmother could come up with better rhymes...if hip hop isnt dead, its gonna be soon unless someone comes up with something cool and fresh soon. do me a favor. check out Looptroop, and Promoe....thats real hip hop still. those guys constantly come up with something fresh ive never heard before, every time they come out with a new cd. untill someone here in the states comes up with something that fresh and hot, im gonna say that yes, hip hop is pretty much dead
Reply:Most music is dead. To be popular in mainstream rap, you have to be a gangsta or a pimp, to be popular in rock you have to be a gothic guy, who's life is so horrible (yeah, right), etc. It all sounds the same. They both need a couple of acts that are creative and get mainstream play. Very few have been able to do this. Only OutKast, Gnarls Barkley, and Linkin Park (Until recently) have been creative and mainstream at the same time.
Reply:Yes it is. This crap thats coming out now is worthless. Look at Mims. For some reason hes making millions of dollars for saying 5 words over and over. Im tired of talentless people getting millions while the talented are left scraping for money. Crunk needs to be killed. I miss the days when hip hop had meaning not just look at my money look at how im wasting my money on putting shiny in my mouth. Crunk is the murderer of hip hop. What happened to making quality music with meaning? Thats what hip hop was about. Now its just how much money can i make by writing about how hot i think i am. So yes, HIP HOP IS DEAD AND HAS BEEN DEAD SINCE 1999!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...
Reply:Hip Hop is not “dead” per say, but it has lost some of its appeal. I’ve been around long enough to see how Hip Hop used to be, how it’s evolved through the years and what it’s become. I can tell you that it has lost “something.” Part of this has to do with the lack of creativity. Everyone wants to be like everyone else, I don’t see much individualism like I used to. Everything is so redundant. I mean really…how many times are we going to have to watch women bumpin T%26amp;A all up in the video, before someone says, “Enough already!! OK. I’ve seen this before, can we move on now…….?” Seriously, how boring is that? Also, Rappers nowadays are less conscience of what they rap about and seem to focus more on what they’re wearing, social status, and are overly trendy, appealing to only what’s HOT at the time. Therefore, music becomes disposable, since what may be HOT today, could very well be obsolete tomorrow. But if I blame anyone, I blame Clear Channel/Viacom. They will not allow equal airplay to Underground Artists, who are creative and more socially responsible, than say 50 cent or Nelly. If it doesn’t have anything to do with pimpin or hustling money, women, than they don’t play it. Period. Anyway… for me, only listen to rap from the early to mid 90’s, because I get more of an artistic, underground vibe that you just don’t see today. Bottom line, Hip Hop is not totally dead, but it does need to be re-evaluated. Let me say one more thing, because I want to be fair to the younger generation. Maybe Hip Hop is the way it is today, because it’s just a “sign of the times” therefore really cannot be avoided. Well, if that is true, fine. But Hip Hop seems to turn over it’s style about every 5-10 yrs. And we are about 10 yrs into this “bling bling” pimpin stage (started around 96”) so, I think it’s time for it to turn over again and let’s move on to the “next stage” of this brilliant culture we call Hip Hop. Peace.
Reply:'ey yo, Hip hop is a terrible excuse for music.
Rock is not necessarily yelling... rock has wide and broad sub-genres.... if you're talking about yelling you're thinking hard rock or metal.
Rap? It's one genre basically. They make a beat and they speak rhymed lines... i've done it without even trying.
Reply:There no way you are older than 18 making a statement like that. You must be young, possible even born in the 90's. If you listened to hip hop during the 80's and early 90's, you'd know exactly why they say it's dead. Hip Hop has evolved into something that the pioneers of rap, and the original fans of rap cannot relate to whatsoever anymore. It's lost it's originality. It's spirit. I personally cannot identify with mainstream rap that's being produced now days.
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i cant listen to the radio anymore because all i hear is a bunch of nonsense. the mainstream stuff is a bunch of garbage. all these guys talk about is how much money they got, their chains, cars, women they sleep with, or doin some stupid dance. these guys aint sayin anything positive.
btw, record sales of been down for a few years now, but ring tone sales have been up.
hip hop needs a revival
Reply:I think it is dead
Reply:Yeah Hip-Hop is Dead. Some people don't think that but everyone has their own opinion. I say Hip-Hop is dead becuase there aren't any rappers out there who are creative %26amp; don't have the love of hip-hop thy just care about the money. Anyone could pretty much be in the rap game now. Everyone talks about the same thing %26amp; knowone has any skills either. Hip-Hop is also dead becuase of the increase in record sells. 2006 was the worst hip-hop selling year!!! So think about that also. Record sells are decreasing.
Reply:Nope, rock music isn't screaming that's heavy metal. Hip hop is not dead
Reply:Kinfolk Kia $hine said it best in his song "Wow" HIP HOP AINT DEAD, IT LIVES IN THE SOUTH!!
Reply:#1 bright eyes shut tha hell up, ur not funny.
#2 hunni calm down lol its not dead true but it sure is endangered. u gotta addmit theres not too many truely, undenieable talented HIP HOP artist out there but people that support that real stuff keep doin wat ur doin and maybe we can fully revive it!
Reply:Hip is Dead, hate it or love it. With all that crap coming out nowadays its dead.
Reply:hip hop is dead because it isn't what it was back in the 80s-90s only artists that are keepin hip hop alive are underground with no radio airplay or tv exposure heres an example of why its dead
"[Lil Wayne]
I'm just pimping
Baby you got a rule for me
Put your mink on and slide in a cool for me
Hey you gotta get high and go low for me
It's Cash Money young money never know money"
[Canibus]
"I'm the type of n*gga that'll prove it, produce sh*t
Spent so much time in the studio I had to move in
A soldier, who practices West Indian obia
I can drink the poison from a king cobra"
which one is better SERIOUSLY
Reply:so ur kinda saying music is dead but hip hop is dead
Reply:well people sayin hip hop is dead has nothin to do with any other genre, people who say hip hop is dead may not listen to rock or country so they wouldnt be qualified to make such a statement.....and its their opinion, they can say what they want to say...hip hop isnt all music....hip hop may not be dead, but look at the songs dominating airplays nowadays..its an opinional statement, if you dont think so then thats you, but if other people say it, thats their opinion...Personally I feel there are alot of talented artists who just dont get the shine of some radio/tv artists..for example, lupe fiasco's rhymes are better than almost all of the every day radio cats, but he just doesnt get the same exposure
Reply:damnit, i guess i'll hafta shoot it a few more times..
Reply:I'm getting tired of this argument!
If hip hop is dead, than great, stay dead!
LOL
Maybe black people will find something else to do.
I don't want to hear that bull**** excuse that the South killed it either.
Reply:hecks no it ain't dead.
Reply:Hip Hop is not dead it is more alive now than ever, thats why it is influencing the whole world, i agree cuz no genre of music sounds the same as it did when it was first originated
pulling baby teeth
Hip Hop is getting treated unfairly?
First, most people like to start by blaming hip hop for degrading women. Oh my gosh, who do you think sign themselves up for these videos. If you want to blame anybody for being degraded, blame these women. Example, The Game,
video "Wouldn't Get Far". He is putting down these women and they are singing along with him in the video. Second, if you don't know all hip hop, then you can't judge it as a whole. Nobody doens't want to blame the record industry for not wanting to put out variety of hip hop. They put out the candy hip hop because nowadays most people like to party, so they are putting out cd's that work for the clubgoers. I think coming down on hip hop after this whole Don Imus thing was really stupid. The man was wrong. I don't think most black women would let any man of any race directly call them a "nappy headed ho". Get it right. Most important, black women don't even rule the music video, every other race do.
Hip Hop is getting treated unfairly?
Every genre of music gets treated unfairly. I remember how much grief heavy metal got during the mid 80's. Rap in the 90's and so on. If people didn't have something to complain about, they'd die of boredom I guess.
Reply:Pipe down!
Reply:I don't know what you mean by "unfairly" since hip-hop is all the rage these days (at least in Brazil) but you have to admit, it IS rather detestable.
Reply:Most of the Hip Hop or Urban or whatever it's called these days that I've heard puts down women and figures of authority. I don't recall Heavy Metal or even the underground English stuff ever doing that. Also, they use words and terms in Hip Hop that the rest of the ethnicities aren't allowed to use because they're degrading or prejudicial then they get all hot and bothered when someone else uses those same terms.
IMO, what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. If the popular Hip Hop artists refer to their own ethnicity with certain terms then so can the rest of the world.
Reply:I agree with Sporrega... Pointing out the problems with Hip Hop and any other urban music doesn't let Don Imus off the hook. It just brings some very important issues to the forefront. If people of any race won't treat their own women with respect, how can they expect everybody else to? And while you're correct that black women don't rule video, I'll bet that if every black woman refused to buy that trash, and refused to condone their men buying it, things would change. It's all about the money, and as long as people buy garbage, garbage will be produced.
Reply:The problem is that hip hop has lost the passion it once had. Rappers or Wannabe Artist really aren't that talented with all the nonsene they talk about and the way they just sample other music, it's ridiculous. Hippty Hop will be dead soon I hope because it really sucks and the Homies can't figure out the ENGLISH language so they use the N word and all of the other IGNORANT words to get their music played. THE WORLD WILL BE A BETTER PLACE WHEN THE HIP HOP DIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...
video "Wouldn't Get Far". He is putting down these women and they are singing along with him in the video. Second, if you don't know all hip hop, then you can't judge it as a whole. Nobody doens't want to blame the record industry for not wanting to put out variety of hip hop. They put out the candy hip hop because nowadays most people like to party, so they are putting out cd's that work for the clubgoers. I think coming down on hip hop after this whole Don Imus thing was really stupid. The man was wrong. I don't think most black women would let any man of any race directly call them a "nappy headed ho". Get it right. Most important, black women don't even rule the music video, every other race do.
Hip Hop is getting treated unfairly?
Every genre of music gets treated unfairly. I remember how much grief heavy metal got during the mid 80's. Rap in the 90's and so on. If people didn't have something to complain about, they'd die of boredom I guess.
Reply:Pipe down!
Reply:I don't know what you mean by "unfairly" since hip-hop is all the rage these days (at least in Brazil) but you have to admit, it IS rather detestable.
Reply:Most of the Hip Hop or Urban or whatever it's called these days that I've heard puts down women and figures of authority. I don't recall Heavy Metal or even the underground English stuff ever doing that. Also, they use words and terms in Hip Hop that the rest of the ethnicities aren't allowed to use because they're degrading or prejudicial then they get all hot and bothered when someone else uses those same terms.
IMO, what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. If the popular Hip Hop artists refer to their own ethnicity with certain terms then so can the rest of the world.
Reply:I agree with Sporrega... Pointing out the problems with Hip Hop and any other urban music doesn't let Don Imus off the hook. It just brings some very important issues to the forefront. If people of any race won't treat their own women with respect, how can they expect everybody else to? And while you're correct that black women don't rule video, I'll bet that if every black woman refused to buy that trash, and refused to condone their men buying it, things would change. It's all about the money, and as long as people buy garbage, garbage will be produced.
Reply:The problem is that hip hop has lost the passion it once had. Rappers or Wannabe Artist really aren't that talented with all the nonsene they talk about and the way they just sample other music, it's ridiculous. Hippty Hop will be dead soon I hope because it really sucks and the Homies can't figure out the ENGLISH language so they use the N word and all of the other IGNORANT words to get their music played. THE WORLD WILL BE A BETTER PLACE WHEN THE HIP HOP DIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...
Hip hop, the beggining of the end?
Hip hop has become the most stupidest genre of music. It used to be at its peak during the 80's and 90's with its controversial, meaningful, and deep lyrics. Artists and rappers had talent, and they put their heart and soul into their songs. Now hip hop music revolves arouns money, girls, and cars, and other stupid stuff. Seriously how much talent does it take to say "ay bay bay", or "my lip gloss is poppin", and "chicken noodle soup". This current hip hop is garbage, and most good hip hop artists are now underground, those are the people that should have the record deals. Not these idiots with no talent getting money off of stupid sh1t. Will this current hip hop ever recover, it's starting to seem like it won't.
Hip hop, the beggining of the end?
I agree with you. Just a couple of weeks ago, I heard a song that just kept repeating the word bubblegum.
On a bus, I heard some hip-hop and rap that was about dealing drugs, shooting cops, getting revenge, and pimping out prostitutes.
Like you, I tend to like songs that are more like ballads or have stories behind them. Senseless repetition does nothing for me.
I too believe there are a lot of good artists out there that we simply are not getting to hear.
Reply:rap=crap
Reply:thats not music thats not hip hop true hiphop had meaning to it and was not down grading women. and Glorifying gangs and money and all that . the music bitness is 95% biness and 5% taltent maybe thats the problem can u say " more Talent please" or "Got Talent"
Hip hop, the beggining of the end?
I agree with you. Just a couple of weeks ago, I heard a song that just kept repeating the word bubblegum.
On a bus, I heard some hip-hop and rap that was about dealing drugs, shooting cops, getting revenge, and pimping out prostitutes.
Like you, I tend to like songs that are more like ballads or have stories behind them. Senseless repetition does nothing for me.
I too believe there are a lot of good artists out there that we simply are not getting to hear.
Reply:rap=crap
Reply:thats not music thats not hip hop true hiphop had meaning to it and was not down grading women. and Glorifying gangs and money and all that . the music bitness is 95% biness and 5% taltent maybe thats the problem can u say " more Talent please" or "Got Talent"
Hip Hop Is Not Dead,Its Evolved.?
Hip hop is not, its changed, its evoloved, and rappers like nas are claiming its dead?
Nas is just a old b*tch like jim jones said in a diss track ''wee fly high beef mix'' it aint close dead hip hop is bigger than it ever has beeen.
Rappers like 50 cent been spendin too much time in the club, and they are makin club life more better than just techno or reggaeton, you can't dance to rap songs like for example hip hop is dead by nas, thats more the type of music you listen to on a bus ride home or just sitting down waiting.
More people are in clubs now night life is blooming bigger.
Hip hops just going through an evoloution.
However there is still rap, you can say that hip hop is branching off from rap.
Hip Hop Is Not Dead,Its Evolved.?
Devolved.
Reply:I think you're telling your opinion as opposed to asking ours, I guess all music evolves.
Reply:ur an idiot real hip hop ain't meant 2 dance to....it's 2 listen 2 u dumb ****......u dunno **** about hip hop u really feelin all them club bangers??? cmon theyre wack.....50 cent is hella sick but his club bangers are wack....all good rappers have wack songs %26amp; its ppl like u that make em keep makin trash cuz they can make more cash homie ur horrible....**** tha clubs man hip hop aint dead yet but its pretty god damn close and u just made it a lil bit closer hahaha
Reply:Hip Hop will not die if I have anything to say about it...
Reply:the real meaning of hip hop music used to be emceeing and djing
emceeing involved you using a wide range of word choice, complex word schemes, powerful similies and metaphors to add fuel and use words that were RELEVEANT and rhymed at the same time to tell a story or speak the emcees mind. being a good emcee meant you have to also be able to drop UNREHEARSED and ORIGINAL bars off the top of your head in freestyles and use killer lines in battles.
today rappers think its just about spitting **** that rhymes, but they dont realize that the **** they saying barley even relevant and just saying it to rhyme, plus todays rap aint even complex there are barley any similies or metaphors and if there are they are retarded and pointless. then theres the so called freestyles that todays rappers do half of them either just say random **** or break right there, the other half start saying lines from theirs songs or other rappers songs or include random **** that dont make no sense with lines from their other songs.
you are right bout something today its all bout club beats and **** people can dance to. but jim jones aint even close to right, hip hop is dying if not dead already, every year more and more people STOPlistening to hip hop in general, record sales are in a all time low, plus half of the people who do listen to hip hop listen to underground hip hop and or old school hip hop from before 2000 and the other half is just little kids 10-18 who got no idea what hip hop wass and is supposed to be.
reading your stuff bob isnt too sure if you know this but
hip hop= the culture
the culture=emceeing+djing+breaking + tagging
hip hop music=emceeing+djing
emceeing=rapping
Nas is just a old b*tch like jim jones said in a diss track ''wee fly high beef mix'' it aint close dead hip hop is bigger than it ever has beeen.
Rappers like 50 cent been spendin too much time in the club, and they are makin club life more better than just techno or reggaeton, you can't dance to rap songs like for example hip hop is dead by nas, thats more the type of music you listen to on a bus ride home or just sitting down waiting.
More people are in clubs now night life is blooming bigger.
Hip hops just going through an evoloution.
However there is still rap, you can say that hip hop is branching off from rap.
Hip Hop Is Not Dead,Its Evolved.?
Devolved.
Reply:I think you're telling your opinion as opposed to asking ours, I guess all music evolves.
Reply:ur an idiot real hip hop ain't meant 2 dance to....it's 2 listen 2 u dumb ****......u dunno **** about hip hop u really feelin all them club bangers??? cmon theyre wack.....50 cent is hella sick but his club bangers are wack....all good rappers have wack songs %26amp; its ppl like u that make em keep makin trash cuz they can make more cash homie ur horrible....**** tha clubs man hip hop aint dead yet but its pretty god damn close and u just made it a lil bit closer hahaha
Reply:Hip Hop will not die if I have anything to say about it...
Reply:the real meaning of hip hop music used to be emceeing and djing
emceeing involved you using a wide range of word choice, complex word schemes, powerful similies and metaphors to add fuel and use words that were RELEVEANT and rhymed at the same time to tell a story or speak the emcees mind. being a good emcee meant you have to also be able to drop UNREHEARSED and ORIGINAL bars off the top of your head in freestyles and use killer lines in battles.
today rappers think its just about spitting **** that rhymes, but they dont realize that the **** they saying barley even relevant and just saying it to rhyme, plus todays rap aint even complex there are barley any similies or metaphors and if there are they are retarded and pointless. then theres the so called freestyles that todays rappers do half of them either just say random **** or break right there, the other half start saying lines from theirs songs or other rappers songs or include random **** that dont make no sense with lines from their other songs.
you are right bout something today its all bout club beats and **** people can dance to. but jim jones aint even close to right, hip hop is dying if not dead already, every year more and more people STOPlistening to hip hop in general, record sales are in a all time low, plus half of the people who do listen to hip hop listen to underground hip hop and or old school hip hop from before 2000 and the other half is just little kids 10-18 who got no idea what hip hop wass and is supposed to be.
reading your stuff bob isnt too sure if you know this but
hip hop= the culture
the culture=emceeing+djing+breaking + tagging
hip hop music=emceeing+djing
emceeing=rapping
Hip Hop Culture - The Uncle Tom dilemma?
I am a white man, but having had many black friends throughout my life, I have noticed a problem that many black people seem to face that is rarely discussed. We all know that black people face oppression and prejudice from certain white people, but it is also undeniable that the way many black people portray themselves in popular culture (music, film, etc.) has had a negative effect on poor inner city black people in recent years. As hip hop (not all-hip hop) culture has continued to glorify street crime, promote promiscuity, promote self-promotion, and to place excessive value on material wealth, poor inner-city black people have found themselves moving backwards on the social ladder rather than forward. However, when any black person dares to call out hip hop culture for its’ negative message, they are immediately called an “Uncle Tom.” Bill Cosby, one of the great men of our time, has been one of the few black men to dare speak about this, and even he has been called an Uncle Tom. Do you think any other prominent black people will join Mr. Cosby in calling out hip hop culture, or will hip hop continue on its’ path to becoming black people’s new worst enemy.
Hip Hop Culture - The Uncle Tom dilemma?
I love hip-hop music, but I a smart enough to know that what you see in videos is just a facade. They often rent vehicles and women for the day to put in the video. Those nice houses you see them in they struggle to make the payments on when they could have bought it cash before blowing the money on other stuff. Since they never tell kids to do well in school, most black males tend to look at rappers' lifestyles and want to have it. They sit there and ignore school because you don't need good grades to be a rapper.
I am so fed up with it that I almost wish that they would ban it. Someone, anyone. It is destroying an already hurting black culture. I said this to someone before and they told me that I didn't like black people. I have always loved my people which is why I hate to see them in the state they are in.
There is so much wrong with a kid valuing a Hummer with rims more than an education.
Reply:you know , the gay community also has its uncle toms . but to get to your question , yeah , the messege in rap is poisonous . sometimes I wonder if the raps are written by white racists who pay the blacks to sing em and dance around . Malcolm X would have called em idiots .
Reply:Most black people are hard working everyday people who want the same as everyone. A decent life and a better one for their children. The rub is that the stereotype is almost impossible to break while you have negative actions practiced almost excursively by blacks. Hip Hop/portraying violence, drugs, abuse of women and even the role models themselves are lowlife criminals. Drive bys and single parent homes have become their claim to fame. Bill Cosby is right but the message is being ignored. Sad really.
Reply:I'm sorry but I have a problem with this. First of all, the dude who said most black males want the lifestyle they see in videos is way off base. I'm white and I know this is a gross generalization. Also, Bill Cosby was called an Uncle Tom because he simply ranted to people who already know what the problems are. He provided no solutions. He is a Uncle Tom because he's not action oriented. People like Oprah Winfrey and the BET lady are. I don't think Hip Hop is the problem holding the poor black community back. This was demonstrated by the slow governmental action during the Katrina disaster. The problems are systemic, not about a genre of music. Trust me, Hip Hop culture has more influence in the young white community than it does in the black community.
Reply:First to the person calling Bill Cosby an Uncle Tom %26amp; not providing answers: He most certainly did provide answers and guidance. What he didn't do was provide another useless government program. He said what the problem was and the solution is for people to stop acting as if the world owes them something and act as RESPONSIBLE adults.
There are many other Blacks that do speak out but are either ignored or attacked by the NAACP, Jesse Jackson, %26amp; Al Sharpton. A good example is Alan Keyes. Perpetuating the victim mentallity is big business and without it the so-called civil rights leaders have no power.
After all of the civil rights victories, what have minority leaders done to promote education, responsibility, and hard work? Nothing.
human teeth
Hip Hop Culture - The Uncle Tom dilemma?
I love hip-hop music, but I a smart enough to know that what you see in videos is just a facade. They often rent vehicles and women for the day to put in the video. Those nice houses you see them in they struggle to make the payments on when they could have bought it cash before blowing the money on other stuff. Since they never tell kids to do well in school, most black males tend to look at rappers' lifestyles and want to have it. They sit there and ignore school because you don't need good grades to be a rapper.
I am so fed up with it that I almost wish that they would ban it. Someone, anyone. It is destroying an already hurting black culture. I said this to someone before and they told me that I didn't like black people. I have always loved my people which is why I hate to see them in the state they are in.
There is so much wrong with a kid valuing a Hummer with rims more than an education.
Reply:you know , the gay community also has its uncle toms . but to get to your question , yeah , the messege in rap is poisonous . sometimes I wonder if the raps are written by white racists who pay the blacks to sing em and dance around . Malcolm X would have called em idiots .
Reply:Most black people are hard working everyday people who want the same as everyone. A decent life and a better one for their children. The rub is that the stereotype is almost impossible to break while you have negative actions practiced almost excursively by blacks. Hip Hop/portraying violence, drugs, abuse of women and even the role models themselves are lowlife criminals. Drive bys and single parent homes have become their claim to fame. Bill Cosby is right but the message is being ignored. Sad really.
Reply:I'm sorry but I have a problem with this. First of all, the dude who said most black males want the lifestyle they see in videos is way off base. I'm white and I know this is a gross generalization. Also, Bill Cosby was called an Uncle Tom because he simply ranted to people who already know what the problems are. He provided no solutions. He is a Uncle Tom because he's not action oriented. People like Oprah Winfrey and the BET lady are. I don't think Hip Hop is the problem holding the poor black community back. This was demonstrated by the slow governmental action during the Katrina disaster. The problems are systemic, not about a genre of music. Trust me, Hip Hop culture has more influence in the young white community than it does in the black community.
Reply:First to the person calling Bill Cosby an Uncle Tom %26amp; not providing answers: He most certainly did provide answers and guidance. What he didn't do was provide another useless government program. He said what the problem was and the solution is for people to stop acting as if the world owes them something and act as RESPONSIBLE adults.
There are many other Blacks that do speak out but are either ignored or attacked by the NAACP, Jesse Jackson, %26amp; Al Sharpton. A good example is Alan Keyes. Perpetuating the victim mentallity is big business and without it the so-called civil rights leaders have no power.
After all of the civil rights victories, what have minority leaders done to promote education, responsibility, and hard work? Nothing.
human teeth
Hip hop is still dead?
if mobb deep was as good as they were back in 95, 2pac was still alive, dre was still droppin bombs, snoop still had it, and if noone had come up with "dirty south hip hop" then maybe hip hop would still be alive. seriously the only hip hop from the 00's era i can stand is nas, mos def, common, and talib kweli, and some snoop dogg. i mean hip hop sucks now. first of all, theese ****** are just making up words like ballin, and so many rappers today are so uncreative like lil jon who can apperantly only say YEAH, WHAT, and OKAY. and MIMS who said "this is why im hot" 4395743957 times in one song. and so many rappers boastin about there hoes, there chains, there guns, there money, there homies, and there clothes. when really, most rappers today make about as much money as a middle school math teacher, so basically there bragging about sh*t that they dont even got. i mean most of the hip hop records being sold today are being bought by white 12 year olds. (to be continued...
Hip hop is still dead?
i agree with Big Mac... everything is to repititive!!! Everything comin out is just dance music! I wanna go back to the '96 era. I cant even remember the last cd i bought!
Reply:I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT... WHEN HIP HOP WAS ABOUT MUSIC AND MEANING NOT, TELLING US HOW MUCH MONEY THEY GOT IN THE BANK OR THAT YOUR BALLING OR SILLY THINGS LIKE ICE AND CHRIS... HOW REALLY CARES. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE REGULAR HIP HOP THAT FIRST CAME OUT?
Reply:First, I gotta say big ups to easy_baby and C.O.G. for recocnizing that hip hop is a culture, not a genre of music...True hip hop fans, indeed !! Now, where are the rest of the true hip hop fans?? lol
Hip hop is not dead now, and never will die, as long as their are people out there who actually know what real rap is and the true meaning of hip hop. When I was growing up (I'm 28 now) and I started listening to rap, my family always thought it was just a "phase" and that I would grow out of it. But here I am, almost 20 years later and I'm still a devout hip hop head. So as long as there are people out there like that, then hip hop can never die.
I answered in an earlier question that hip hop is not dead, but, more like...hip hop has cancer. You can beat cancer and go on living a normal life, but it's not easy to conquer it. The "cancerous" elements in rap/hip hop right now, are these endless songs with meaningless content (for a few examples....King Kong, Chicken Noodle Soup, Buy You A Drank, It's Goin' Down, This Is Why I'm Hot, Party Like A Rock Star, oh my god, I could go on and on and on, but I'll stop)....
The artists who write these songs are a poison, or cancer to real hip hop. Rap blew up, and now it's a "lean, mean, money makin' machine". You can't put all the blame on the artists however, because they are just feeding the superficial rap fans what they want to hear, what's gonna make them get payed. And you have to blame the greedy record labels who find all these nonsense artists and sign them because they already know who makes up the majority of rap album sales, and they know what the majority wants to hear.....
So, I'm not being sh*tty about this, but for those of you who ARE listeners of rap and you buy into all this nonsense and you go out and buy the 50 Cent albums, instead of the Mos Def albums, then you can only blame yourself for the theory that hip hop is dead. If you don't want to hear all the garbage that the radio stations play, then STOP listening to the stations. You might think that you alone cannot change the direction of hip hop, and you're right....But if every single one of us "true" hip hop fans completely stop listening to FM radio stations, and we completely stop buying the 50 Cent albums, then we, together, can make a statement...not just to the radio stations, but also to the artists and their record labels......
Think about it...If all the true hip hop heads stop buying the garbage cd's, and only buy cd's of the real rappers (mostly underground), and we influence our friends, and then maybe our friends begin to do the same thing...and so on....then, in time, rap album sales for the 50 Cents' and Young Jocs' will begin to decrease, and album sales for the Mos Def's and Talib Kwelis' will begin increasing....And what do record labels do?.....the jump on the band waggon....Right, right??
Yeah, it's a long shot....but isn't it worth giving it a try? Who knows, maybe we can change the direction of hip hop ourselves, and bring the real sh*t back
I have already started doing my part...In the past 2 or 3 years, the only albums I have bought have been by artists such as Immortal Technique, Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Lupe Fiasco, etc......I haven't bought one single "commercial rapper" album in this entire time period....I swear to God...because I got tired of being dumber by the end of songs lol....
And I very rarely listen to the radio anymore, and I have not turned my TV to BET or MTV or MTV2 in probably (and honestly)....a year or so
So, if you are a fan of real rap, and you're sick of the sh*t they play on the radio all day long....then do something about it....do your part.....let's start our own movement and bring back music that has meaning
Finally, my last "shout out" has to go to.....vincent g......Why are you answering a question in the "hip hop" category if you hate it so much?? Are you lonely, or are you just trying to be annoying?? Oh, poor baby, you must need some attention....So there....I gave you some attention.....Now go annoy who ever "your" friends are, or whoever you share interests with and leave us grown ups alone !!
Reply:hip hop never died and never will just cuz 2pac eazy-e an biggie don't mean dat hip hop is dead i take dat personally so quit hatin on hip hop if u dont like it som much then just listen to country,rock, or pop or sumthin else
Reply:Rap music (in heavy rotation) seems repetitive and stripped of artistic growth. That's the key to going platinum; record labels and artist know that. Most people have no clue how much money these artist get paid. Most of them are in debt to a recored label and need to go at least gold to break even. Rap is a business and lots of people eat off of it (Rappers get paid last). I don't believe that hip hop is dead; the media (radio and TV) makes it seem that way because of the artist that they decide to play (more MIMS and less Mos Def).
Reply:Hip Hop isn't dead. It just changed. Honestly I dont really even listen to the lyrics of the songs sometimes. If the beat is hot and I can dance to it then I like it. I love dirty south hip hop. That music keeps me hype.
Reply:Preach, brotha, Preach
Reply:To say hip hop is dead is to say the people of the hip hop culture are "culturally" dead.
The wages of sin is death. I believe that the awakening of so many people to the detriments of "most" (not all) "hip hop" music, shows that God is changing the hearts of the people so that we can be turned away from that which kills us and does not bring life to us. There is a lot of life inspiring music that has "hip hop" elements (emceeing, certain types of beats, etc.) in it. Also, this music still speaks to the everyday situation of the common person, whether from the suburbs, "ghetto", trailer parks or even other countries. For examples to what I am talking about, feel free to check out the links below. Peace........
Reply:hell no its very much still alive
Reply:hip hop is not dead, its just living a sh*tty life. yeah, its just a money making business now. from 1985-1994 were the best yrs. some groups off-top-- blackmoon, smifn wesson, tribe called quest, nas, rakim, krs, biggie, pac, big L, common, blackstar... it goes on and on! BUT the underground is very much alive today. there are a BUNCH of very talented artist son the underground scene with good/great stuff- cannibal ox, aesop rock, brother ali, company flow, etc, so you can find good stuff if you look a bit hard. ( btw, no need for the usage of the n-word in your question. )
Reply:In my opinion hip hop will never be dead.Everything that comes out today should not be considered hip-hop. Some people just go in the studio and then put a song out. Then they want to call it hip hop when they are not talking about nothing in their songs.If you don't like mainstream music you should listen to underground hip hop.Underground music sounds better to me because they don't just sit there and make what everyone else is making.Songs that are out now sound so repetitive to me it's ridiculous.Some of the rappers that used to be good kind of slacked off to me.
Reply:What you wrote there reminded me of how my dad used to tell us that the Beatles are so much better than Metallica, and how my grandparents would say that Elvis made the devil's music.
And don't you people dare forget the Roots and Dead Prez in your list of rappers keeping it real!!!
Reply:no hip hop is not dead it never waz and never will b!!!!
Reply:.ummwell ..yea dog its the way you say and see it . hip-hop is kinda gonne but some ppl are making efforts trinn to resurrect it so ...dunno man maybe your right maybe not but all ..RAPERS ..Like 50 Cent and others are singing about theyr cars jwls and hoes .but we have to admit soem songs where cool and had a small mesaje but with time, fame gets up to theyr brain. So get used to it :) keep it flowin your stile stop listenin to others ;)
Reply:Lindsey: If you don't like rap, then why the hell are you here? Go talk about your rock or pop sh*t.
Illmatic, you do make a very good point about this. However, I am from the South, so I'll feel a little differently than you do. There's only a handful of rappers I like right now (Lil' Wayne, Young Jeezy, Juelz, T.I., and Jay-Z).
But to me, people are just in this game for the money. Record companies want to sell whatever is catchy and whatever you hear on the radio. I'm sick of hearing T-Pain on the radio, or the rest of those guys who think they're good.
I won't say Hip-Hop is dead because its certainly very popular. But I will say its going down in terms of quality.
Reply:yo hip hop aint dead
mainstream hip hop been ****** up something fierce by mtv and the radio
but
Kool G Rap
Krs-One
Nas
Big Daddy Kane
Rakim
and all them old school boys still here.
Then we got our underground boys
immortal technique
mos def
pharoahe monch
M.O.P
talib kweli
rass kass
and all them doing there thing.
Bob misses mainstream hip hop and all the emcees we lost both physically and lyrically, but we cannot just mop around saying hip hop is dead we gotta fight to get mainstream hip hop back, pop ******* like lil wayne and mims got the radio and the spotlight on them, but bob says their music is garbage and its time to take the spot light back. WITH REAL HIP HOP AND NOT THIS POP GARBAGE BEING CALLED HIP HOP
Reply:hip hop is only dead if you want it to be.
To me, hip hop will never die because i love it so much and i know whats good and i listen to whats good.
I go back listen to the classic like "resoanble doubt" and "illmatic" and i realize and not lose sight of what hip hop is all about.I lova all types of music and everybody got their own preference and my preference is real hip hop. Im talking a str8 all hits real hip hop album. But from an optimist point of view, hip hop didn't die like they said. Its just evolving and changing to popular standards. It minght not be for the good of the culture, yes hip hop is a culture, but everything changes. People just gotta remember their roots and where they came from and come in the game intelligent and make a difference you know. Don't conform to the standards, do like lupe and kip push and and bring a lil break dancing back. lol
But untill i die, i will always love hip hop and til then it will remain alive in me.
Reply:Why don't you learn to write an English sentence before you bore people with your nonsense. Hip Hop is not and can never be called music. It is both noise and trash, as is rap and metal.
There is never an excuse for poor spelling, bad grammar, or taste.
Reply:In the words of Talib Kweli; ''Hip-hop ain't dead, it was just asleep''
There are still amazing, real rappers out there. I just think the vast majority of them are incredibly underrated and still underground.
Reply:well dirty south rap aint bad dats all i listen to da thing is depends who u talkin bout
if u listen to sum dj screw from da 90's dan dat was good
but yea u rite now rap has fallen off it aint like back in da day i guess it is dead. i only listen to old skool i dont listen to new rap its too repetitive and its weak as ****
Reply:Im 27, lived on both coasts, and I agree that POP hip hop today is mostly wack as hell. I havent been able to listen to fm radio for at least 4 years. I listen to Mos, Talib, Common, Slum Vilage. Kanye's talented as hell, too. But other than that (in hip hop anyway), there's nuthin new on the radio that I care to listen to! The last hit I really loved was Amerie- One thing. There was some good stuff in the early 2000's but hip hop is getting progresively worse, and I have to look underground. There are some great soul artists I like now, though.
Reply:no offense but i wish that all hip-hop/rap would die and stay dead
Hip hop is still dead?
i agree with Big Mac... everything is to repititive!!! Everything comin out is just dance music! I wanna go back to the '96 era. I cant even remember the last cd i bought!
Reply:I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT... WHEN HIP HOP WAS ABOUT MUSIC AND MEANING NOT, TELLING US HOW MUCH MONEY THEY GOT IN THE BANK OR THAT YOUR BALLING OR SILLY THINGS LIKE ICE AND CHRIS... HOW REALLY CARES. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE REGULAR HIP HOP THAT FIRST CAME OUT?
Reply:First, I gotta say big ups to easy_baby and C.O.G. for recocnizing that hip hop is a culture, not a genre of music...True hip hop fans, indeed !! Now, where are the rest of the true hip hop fans?? lol
Hip hop is not dead now, and never will die, as long as their are people out there who actually know what real rap is and the true meaning of hip hop. When I was growing up (I'm 28 now) and I started listening to rap, my family always thought it was just a "phase" and that I would grow out of it. But here I am, almost 20 years later and I'm still a devout hip hop head. So as long as there are people out there like that, then hip hop can never die.
I answered in an earlier question that hip hop is not dead, but, more like...hip hop has cancer. You can beat cancer and go on living a normal life, but it's not easy to conquer it. The "cancerous" elements in rap/hip hop right now, are these endless songs with meaningless content (for a few examples....King Kong, Chicken Noodle Soup, Buy You A Drank, It's Goin' Down, This Is Why I'm Hot, Party Like A Rock Star, oh my god, I could go on and on and on, but I'll stop)....
The artists who write these songs are a poison, or cancer to real hip hop. Rap blew up, and now it's a "lean, mean, money makin' machine". You can't put all the blame on the artists however, because they are just feeding the superficial rap fans what they want to hear, what's gonna make them get payed. And you have to blame the greedy record labels who find all these nonsense artists and sign them because they already know who makes up the majority of rap album sales, and they know what the majority wants to hear.....
So, I'm not being sh*tty about this, but for those of you who ARE listeners of rap and you buy into all this nonsense and you go out and buy the 50 Cent albums, instead of the Mos Def albums, then you can only blame yourself for the theory that hip hop is dead. If you don't want to hear all the garbage that the radio stations play, then STOP listening to the stations. You might think that you alone cannot change the direction of hip hop, and you're right....But if every single one of us "true" hip hop fans completely stop listening to FM radio stations, and we completely stop buying the 50 Cent albums, then we, together, can make a statement...not just to the radio stations, but also to the artists and their record labels......
Think about it...If all the true hip hop heads stop buying the garbage cd's, and only buy cd's of the real rappers (mostly underground), and we influence our friends, and then maybe our friends begin to do the same thing...and so on....then, in time, rap album sales for the 50 Cents' and Young Jocs' will begin to decrease, and album sales for the Mos Def's and Talib Kwelis' will begin increasing....And what do record labels do?.....the jump on the band waggon....Right, right??
Yeah, it's a long shot....but isn't it worth giving it a try? Who knows, maybe we can change the direction of hip hop ourselves, and bring the real sh*t back
I have already started doing my part...In the past 2 or 3 years, the only albums I have bought have been by artists such as Immortal Technique, Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Lupe Fiasco, etc......I haven't bought one single "commercial rapper" album in this entire time period....I swear to God...because I got tired of being dumber by the end of songs lol....
And I very rarely listen to the radio anymore, and I have not turned my TV to BET or MTV or MTV2 in probably (and honestly)....a year or so
So, if you are a fan of real rap, and you're sick of the sh*t they play on the radio all day long....then do something about it....do your part.....let's start our own movement and bring back music that has meaning
Finally, my last "shout out" has to go to.....vincent g......Why are you answering a question in the "hip hop" category if you hate it so much?? Are you lonely, or are you just trying to be annoying?? Oh, poor baby, you must need some attention....So there....I gave you some attention.....Now go annoy who ever "your" friends are, or whoever you share interests with and leave us grown ups alone !!
Reply:hip hop never died and never will just cuz 2pac eazy-e an biggie don't mean dat hip hop is dead i take dat personally so quit hatin on hip hop if u dont like it som much then just listen to country,rock, or pop or sumthin else
Reply:Rap music (in heavy rotation) seems repetitive and stripped of artistic growth. That's the key to going platinum; record labels and artist know that. Most people have no clue how much money these artist get paid. Most of them are in debt to a recored label and need to go at least gold to break even. Rap is a business and lots of people eat off of it (Rappers get paid last). I don't believe that hip hop is dead; the media (radio and TV) makes it seem that way because of the artist that they decide to play (more MIMS and less Mos Def).
Reply:Hip Hop isn't dead. It just changed. Honestly I dont really even listen to the lyrics of the songs sometimes. If the beat is hot and I can dance to it then I like it. I love dirty south hip hop. That music keeps me hype.
Reply:Preach, brotha, Preach
Reply:To say hip hop is dead is to say the people of the hip hop culture are "culturally" dead.
The wages of sin is death. I believe that the awakening of so many people to the detriments of "most" (not all) "hip hop" music, shows that God is changing the hearts of the people so that we can be turned away from that which kills us and does not bring life to us. There is a lot of life inspiring music that has "hip hop" elements (emceeing, certain types of beats, etc.) in it. Also, this music still speaks to the everyday situation of the common person, whether from the suburbs, "ghetto", trailer parks or even other countries. For examples to what I am talking about, feel free to check out the links below. Peace........
Reply:hell no its very much still alive
Reply:hip hop is not dead, its just living a sh*tty life. yeah, its just a money making business now. from 1985-1994 were the best yrs. some groups off-top-- blackmoon, smifn wesson, tribe called quest, nas, rakim, krs, biggie, pac, big L, common, blackstar... it goes on and on! BUT the underground is very much alive today. there are a BUNCH of very talented artist son the underground scene with good/great stuff- cannibal ox, aesop rock, brother ali, company flow, etc, so you can find good stuff if you look a bit hard. ( btw, no need for the usage of the n-word in your question. )
Reply:In my opinion hip hop will never be dead.Everything that comes out today should not be considered hip-hop. Some people just go in the studio and then put a song out. Then they want to call it hip hop when they are not talking about nothing in their songs.If you don't like mainstream music you should listen to underground hip hop.Underground music sounds better to me because they don't just sit there and make what everyone else is making.Songs that are out now sound so repetitive to me it's ridiculous.Some of the rappers that used to be good kind of slacked off to me.
Reply:What you wrote there reminded me of how my dad used to tell us that the Beatles are so much better than Metallica, and how my grandparents would say that Elvis made the devil's music.
And don't you people dare forget the Roots and Dead Prez in your list of rappers keeping it real!!!
Reply:no hip hop is not dead it never waz and never will b!!!!
Reply:.ummwell ..yea dog its the way you say and see it . hip-hop is kinda gonne but some ppl are making efforts trinn to resurrect it so ...dunno man maybe your right maybe not but all ..RAPERS ..Like 50 Cent and others are singing about theyr cars jwls and hoes .but we have to admit soem songs where cool and had a small mesaje but with time, fame gets up to theyr brain. So get used to it :) keep it flowin your stile stop listenin to others ;)
Reply:Lindsey: If you don't like rap, then why the hell are you here? Go talk about your rock or pop sh*t.
Illmatic, you do make a very good point about this. However, I am from the South, so I'll feel a little differently than you do. There's only a handful of rappers I like right now (Lil' Wayne, Young Jeezy, Juelz, T.I., and Jay-Z).
But to me, people are just in this game for the money. Record companies want to sell whatever is catchy and whatever you hear on the radio. I'm sick of hearing T-Pain on the radio, or the rest of those guys who think they're good.
I won't say Hip-Hop is dead because its certainly very popular. But I will say its going down in terms of quality.
Reply:yo hip hop aint dead
mainstream hip hop been ****** up something fierce by mtv and the radio
but
Kool G Rap
Krs-One
Nas
Big Daddy Kane
Rakim
and all them old school boys still here.
Then we got our underground boys
immortal technique
mos def
pharoahe monch
M.O.P
talib kweli
rass kass
and all them doing there thing.
Bob misses mainstream hip hop and all the emcees we lost both physically and lyrically, but we cannot just mop around saying hip hop is dead we gotta fight to get mainstream hip hop back, pop ******* like lil wayne and mims got the radio and the spotlight on them, but bob says their music is garbage and its time to take the spot light back. WITH REAL HIP HOP AND NOT THIS POP GARBAGE BEING CALLED HIP HOP
Reply:hip hop is only dead if you want it to be.
To me, hip hop will never die because i love it so much and i know whats good and i listen to whats good.
I go back listen to the classic like "resoanble doubt" and "illmatic" and i realize and not lose sight of what hip hop is all about.I lova all types of music and everybody got their own preference and my preference is real hip hop. Im talking a str8 all hits real hip hop album. But from an optimist point of view, hip hop didn't die like they said. Its just evolving and changing to popular standards. It minght not be for the good of the culture, yes hip hop is a culture, but everything changes. People just gotta remember their roots and where they came from and come in the game intelligent and make a difference you know. Don't conform to the standards, do like lupe and kip push and and bring a lil break dancing back. lol
But untill i die, i will always love hip hop and til then it will remain alive in me.
Reply:Why don't you learn to write an English sentence before you bore people with your nonsense. Hip Hop is not and can never be called music. It is both noise and trash, as is rap and metal.
There is never an excuse for poor spelling, bad grammar, or taste.
Reply:In the words of Talib Kweli; ''Hip-hop ain't dead, it was just asleep''
There are still amazing, real rappers out there. I just think the vast majority of them are incredibly underrated and still underground.
Reply:well dirty south rap aint bad dats all i listen to da thing is depends who u talkin bout
if u listen to sum dj screw from da 90's dan dat was good
but yea u rite now rap has fallen off it aint like back in da day i guess it is dead. i only listen to old skool i dont listen to new rap its too repetitive and its weak as ****
Reply:Im 27, lived on both coasts, and I agree that POP hip hop today is mostly wack as hell. I havent been able to listen to fm radio for at least 4 years. I listen to Mos, Talib, Common, Slum Vilage. Kanye's talented as hell, too. But other than that (in hip hop anyway), there's nuthin new on the radio that I care to listen to! The last hit I really loved was Amerie- One thing. There was some good stuff in the early 2000's but hip hop is getting progresively worse, and I have to look underground. There are some great soul artists I like now, though.
Reply:no offense but i wish that all hip-hop/rap would die and stay dead
Hip Hop Fans That Hardly LISTEN To Hip Hop Lyrics......?
I think there's 2 types of Hip Hop Fans that Never Listen to Hip Hop Lyrics:
1. The Type of Fan that likes what he/she hears on track %26amp; KNOWS the words by Heart..BUT doesn't know the "Street Term/Hood Term" of the Lyrics no matter how Disrespectful it is towards females or how Nasty it is.
2. The Type of Fan that Listens to a track %26amp; NEVER listens to the lyrics..But Likes the track because of "The Hook" %26amp; The Beat. The Fan doesn't need creative Lyrics to like it, All they need is an hook they can remember %26amp; that sounds "Hot".
My Question is....Why do many of these so-called Hip Hop Fans Like Simple-Minded Tracks so much?
Is it Because the Fans are so UNEXPERIENCED with hip hop that they have to listen to something that's EASY to remember?
Hip Hop Fans That Hardly LISTEN To Hip Hop Lyrics......?
Because a lot of fans of hip-hop now are predominantly pop fans who are branching out into different genres.Of course they are going to be listening to the ones who they can catch on easily.And they'll just treat every word on the song like every other word and recite it because they think it's okay to say the word.How many people know that "superman" is a sexual term,which is kinda unhygienic and gross.Just let them catch on to hip-hop first and ease them into the deeper stuff at their own pace.I started hip-hop listening to Eminem,and even though he's pretty good his music is still quite commercialised.Then after a while I listened to 50 Cent,then Jay-Z,Nas,Tupac,Biggie,Dr. Dre,NWA,Eazy-E,etc..You gotta give them time because they probably grew up listening to Kylie Minouge or Madonna,not KRS-One or Marley Marl.
Reply:I'm a beat freak, but take notice of the lyrics on nas and rza's tracks cause they got something to say.
I'm all for a good hook but these yung south r%26amp;b cross over hooks are just getting so saturated - take souljah boys rip/sample on throw some d's - ouch, Kanye's was classic but now souljah has just destroyed both kanyes remix and the original.
And how many times can a new act have a song called pop,lock and drop it ?
Something meaningfull like common's/will.i.ams have a dream pls!
Reply:Because they dont listen to the lyrics. You already know the answer.
Reply:I think they like them because they're just catchy and for the fact that the songs are simple-minded. Its just something for them to listen to at a party, in the car or when they're out with friends. I know i do but when i'm at home or when i'm hanging out with my friends i can listen to Nas, Jayz, Common, Mos Def etc. and dicuss the lyrics.
So i guess i can say i tend to straddle the fence but i DO NOT go around saying Soulja Boy is the best rapper alive. I'm sure thats what kind of fan ur talking about.
Reply:They like what everyone else likes...
Reply:in europe (not uk), most of the people don't understand english. thatswhy they don't care what people rap, just how cool the beat is. or they listen to their own stuff like german, spanish etc. rap.
on the other hand, you have stuff like odb (damn, i love his stuff!) but listening to his lyrics...;)
nowadays, lyrics ain't that what it used to be.
Reply:Guess I'm # 3. The Hook %26amp; Beat attract me first, then the Lyrics kick in. I understand the Street Terms but really don't care what the song is about (dirty, clean, derrogatory, whatever). I'm all about the Flow. If it moves me I like it. I don't think this answers your question but I tried.
Reply:why do u people take rap so seriously? you sort of sound like the Ku Klux Klan of hip hop. Dont get me wrong, i like rap and all that other stuff, but why do u have to take it so seriously... isnt music made to entertain?
Reply:U JUST ANSWERED YOUR OWN QUESTION. YEAH FANS LIKE SOMETHING THAS EASY TO LISTEN TO. EASY TO REMEMBER AND HAS EASY LYRICS. NOT ALL FANS OF RAP ARE HIP HOP FANS. PERSONALLY I LIKE COMPLICATED LYRICS BUT LEARN TO APPRECIATE THE SIMPLE RAP TOO. U HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S A BUISNESS BEFORE IT IS ANY THING ELSE. IT'S COOL THAT THERE ARE REAL HIP HOP HEADS OUT THERE BUT THIS IS THE GENERATION OF THE CROSS OVER, WHERE ALMOST ANYTHING GOES. AND THE TRADITIONAL ARE RIDICULED FOR THERE REALNESS.
1. The Type of Fan that likes what he/she hears on track %26amp; KNOWS the words by Heart..BUT doesn't know the "Street Term/Hood Term" of the Lyrics no matter how Disrespectful it is towards females or how Nasty it is.
2. The Type of Fan that Listens to a track %26amp; NEVER listens to the lyrics..But Likes the track because of "The Hook" %26amp; The Beat. The Fan doesn't need creative Lyrics to like it, All they need is an hook they can remember %26amp; that sounds "Hot".
My Question is....Why do many of these so-called Hip Hop Fans Like Simple-Minded Tracks so much?
Is it Because the Fans are so UNEXPERIENCED with hip hop that they have to listen to something that's EASY to remember?
Hip Hop Fans That Hardly LISTEN To Hip Hop Lyrics......?
Because a lot of fans of hip-hop now are predominantly pop fans who are branching out into different genres.Of course they are going to be listening to the ones who they can catch on easily.And they'll just treat every word on the song like every other word and recite it because they think it's okay to say the word.How many people know that "superman" is a sexual term,which is kinda unhygienic and gross.Just let them catch on to hip-hop first and ease them into the deeper stuff at their own pace.I started hip-hop listening to Eminem,and even though he's pretty good his music is still quite commercialised.Then after a while I listened to 50 Cent,then Jay-Z,Nas,Tupac,Biggie,Dr. Dre,NWA,Eazy-E,etc..You gotta give them time because they probably grew up listening to Kylie Minouge or Madonna,not KRS-One or Marley Marl.
Reply:I'm a beat freak, but take notice of the lyrics on nas and rza's tracks cause they got something to say.
I'm all for a good hook but these yung south r%26amp;b cross over hooks are just getting so saturated - take souljah boys rip/sample on throw some d's - ouch, Kanye's was classic but now souljah has just destroyed both kanyes remix and the original.
And how many times can a new act have a song called pop,lock and drop it ?
Something meaningfull like common's/will.i.ams have a dream pls!
Reply:Because they dont listen to the lyrics. You already know the answer.
Reply:I think they like them because they're just catchy and for the fact that the songs are simple-minded. Its just something for them to listen to at a party, in the car or when they're out with friends. I know i do but when i'm at home or when i'm hanging out with my friends i can listen to Nas, Jayz, Common, Mos Def etc. and dicuss the lyrics.
So i guess i can say i tend to straddle the fence but i DO NOT go around saying Soulja Boy is the best rapper alive. I'm sure thats what kind of fan ur talking about.
Reply:They like what everyone else likes...
Reply:in europe (not uk), most of the people don't understand english. thatswhy they don't care what people rap, just how cool the beat is. or they listen to their own stuff like german, spanish etc. rap.
on the other hand, you have stuff like odb (damn, i love his stuff!) but listening to his lyrics...;)
nowadays, lyrics ain't that what it used to be.
Reply:Guess I'm # 3. The Hook %26amp; Beat attract me first, then the Lyrics kick in. I understand the Street Terms but really don't care what the song is about (dirty, clean, derrogatory, whatever). I'm all about the Flow. If it moves me I like it. I don't think this answers your question but I tried.
Reply:why do u people take rap so seriously? you sort of sound like the Ku Klux Klan of hip hop. Dont get me wrong, i like rap and all that other stuff, but why do u have to take it so seriously... isnt music made to entertain?
Reply:U JUST ANSWERED YOUR OWN QUESTION. YEAH FANS LIKE SOMETHING THAS EASY TO LISTEN TO. EASY TO REMEMBER AND HAS EASY LYRICS. NOT ALL FANS OF RAP ARE HIP HOP FANS. PERSONALLY I LIKE COMPLICATED LYRICS BUT LEARN TO APPRECIATE THE SIMPLE RAP TOO. U HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S A BUISNESS BEFORE IT IS ANY THING ELSE. IT'S COOL THAT THERE ARE REAL HIP HOP HEADS OUT THERE BUT THIS IS THE GENERATION OF THE CROSS OVER, WHERE ALMOST ANYTHING GOES. AND THE TRADITIONAL ARE RIDICULED FOR THERE REALNESS.
Real Hip Hop vs Commercial Hip Hop?
I'm sick of people coming on here and talking out their a*s about how Hip Hop degrades women and shows a negative portrayal of African Americans. How Hip Hop requires no talent and is stupid. So what I want is real Hip Hip head to explain to these idiots the difference between Real Hip Hop vs Commercial Hip Hop.
Real Hip Hop vs Commercial Hip Hop?
Real hip hop is motivation, something that Inspires the newer generations, gives them a positive message, its lyricism
Commercial is a wannabe type of hip hop, designed to put mental images of big dreams that they dont even have, its a diss to the older Generation, Its a Dance Movement, its beats over lyrics
people have a hard time understanding where the realness comes from.
yes im talking about you "Bill Cosby"
^_^
Reply:Actually it all depends on your perspective. Some people think Common is underground, others think MF Doom is mainstream. As much as i dislike the current "snap music" phase that hip hop is in, i believe people should have the choice to listen to whatever they please. the majority of people in RHH would probably say that real hip hop is music that speaks on emotions, critisms and intellectual observations. they would probably also agree that commercial hip hop is rap about money, dancing, sex and violence. so i guess it all depends on subject matter.
Reply:Real Hip Hop connects with the streets and the struggles that African-Americans face on a every day basis.
Commerical Hip Hop caters to what is popular and what sells. The bling-bling, the rims, the sex images is just to catch the audiences attention and to provide a bit of ENTERTAINMENT, but it doesn't represent the true struggle that our people face.
Sex sells!!! You can find it everywhere, not just in Hip-hop. Most of the Hip-Hop nowadays is commerical !!
Reply:Real hip-hop: the embodiment and personification of the hardships, good times, shortcomings, uplifting etc moments that one goes through. To tell a story not just because you can but to inform. To enlighten others about your struggle. And thats just the half of it.
Commercial Hip-Hop: completely 2-dimensional. for ex
Shawty wanna thug
Bottles in the club
Shawty wanna hump
And ooooo I like to touch ya lovely lady lumps
nuff said
Reply:Co-sign with Rent-a-Cop, AimJeezy %26amp; PureDelight
Everything with rapping is hip hop, there are just different variations which some people may prefer to listen to over others. Rap would be boring if all we had were "conscience rappers", sometimes I feel like listening to something like Dem Franchize Boyz that'll make me wanna snap my fingers n chill out, and other times I'll feel like listening to something serious. I don't wanna chill out with my iPod n hear how bad and hard life is...
Reply:Since its humble beginnings in New York City, hip-hop culture – the MC, the DJ, the graffiti writer and the breakdancer – became one of the single most important forms of expression for young people on this planet.
hip-hop altered the way we make music, the way we move, the way we speak and the way we dress. Hip-hop also became the great cultural bridge for widely different groups to communicate across race, class, region, language, and national divides.
Controversy, outrage and the rise of gangsta rap documented the shift from a largely diverse art form to the subculture of gangsta rap, which came to dominate the radio and garner the bulk of the media’s attention
Reply:Commercial Hip Hop IS real Hip Hop. Period!
Don't let these outside clowns trick you into pigeonholing a musical art-form that is just as diverse as the people who enjoy it.
Try as they may, they can't fit Hip Hop in to some small little box so they can easily discard it or file it away somewhere.
Hip Hop is bigger than that, it's an undeniable force, and they can't stand that fact.
Reply:real hip hop comes from the heart man it has nothin to do wit the money but for the fact of hip hop itself and tryin to help keep it alive.commercial hip hop is a bunch of fake mo foes that talk sh*t about they never did or its like there actin on a movie haha
Reply:i dont call it real vs commercial...i think its all real.
its just bad vs. good....and even thats a matter of opinion. this argument will never have a winner unfortunately
EDIT:: Im wit aimjeezy on this
Reply:why don't *YOU* tell me??? cuz as far as i'm concerned, its *ALL* hip hop at the end of the day... just depends on your preference.
EDIT: cosign puredelight
Reply:real hip hop shows more lyrical skill and diversity within themes.
Reply:real hip hop wins but not AS popular as commercial hip hop
Real Hip Hop vs Commercial Hip Hop?
Real hip hop is motivation, something that Inspires the newer generations, gives them a positive message, its lyricism
Commercial is a wannabe type of hip hop, designed to put mental images of big dreams that they dont even have, its a diss to the older Generation, Its a Dance Movement, its beats over lyrics
people have a hard time understanding where the realness comes from.
yes im talking about you "Bill Cosby"
^_^
Reply:Actually it all depends on your perspective. Some people think Common is underground, others think MF Doom is mainstream. As much as i dislike the current "snap music" phase that hip hop is in, i believe people should have the choice to listen to whatever they please. the majority of people in RHH would probably say that real hip hop is music that speaks on emotions, critisms and intellectual observations. they would probably also agree that commercial hip hop is rap about money, dancing, sex and violence. so i guess it all depends on subject matter.
Reply:Real Hip Hop connects with the streets and the struggles that African-Americans face on a every day basis.
Commerical Hip Hop caters to what is popular and what sells. The bling-bling, the rims, the sex images is just to catch the audiences attention and to provide a bit of ENTERTAINMENT, but it doesn't represent the true struggle that our people face.
Sex sells!!! You can find it everywhere, not just in Hip-hop. Most of the Hip-Hop nowadays is commerical !!
Reply:Real hip-hop: the embodiment and personification of the hardships, good times, shortcomings, uplifting etc moments that one goes through. To tell a story not just because you can but to inform. To enlighten others about your struggle. And thats just the half of it.
Commercial Hip-Hop: completely 2-dimensional. for ex
Shawty wanna thug
Bottles in the club
Shawty wanna hump
And ooooo I like to touch ya lovely lady lumps
nuff said
Reply:Co-sign with Rent-a-Cop, AimJeezy %26amp; PureDelight
Everything with rapping is hip hop, there are just different variations which some people may prefer to listen to over others. Rap would be boring if all we had were "conscience rappers", sometimes I feel like listening to something like Dem Franchize Boyz that'll make me wanna snap my fingers n chill out, and other times I'll feel like listening to something serious. I don't wanna chill out with my iPod n hear how bad and hard life is...
Reply:Since its humble beginnings in New York City, hip-hop culture – the MC, the DJ, the graffiti writer and the breakdancer – became one of the single most important forms of expression for young people on this planet.
hip-hop altered the way we make music, the way we move, the way we speak and the way we dress. Hip-hop also became the great cultural bridge for widely different groups to communicate across race, class, region, language, and national divides.
Controversy, outrage and the rise of gangsta rap documented the shift from a largely diverse art form to the subculture of gangsta rap, which came to dominate the radio and garner the bulk of the media’s attention
Reply:Commercial Hip Hop IS real Hip Hop. Period!
Don't let these outside clowns trick you into pigeonholing a musical art-form that is just as diverse as the people who enjoy it.
Try as they may, they can't fit Hip Hop in to some small little box so they can easily discard it or file it away somewhere.
Hip Hop is bigger than that, it's an undeniable force, and they can't stand that fact.
Reply:real hip hop comes from the heart man it has nothin to do wit the money but for the fact of hip hop itself and tryin to help keep it alive.commercial hip hop is a bunch of fake mo foes that talk sh*t about they never did or its like there actin on a movie haha
Reply:i dont call it real vs commercial...i think its all real.
its just bad vs. good....and even thats a matter of opinion. this argument will never have a winner unfortunately
EDIT:: Im wit aimjeezy on this
Reply:why don't *YOU* tell me??? cuz as far as i'm concerned, its *ALL* hip hop at the end of the day... just depends on your preference.
EDIT: cosign puredelight
Reply:real hip hop shows more lyrical skill and diversity within themes.
Reply:real hip hop wins but not AS popular as commercial hip hop
Hip hop poll?
which hip hop track is better?
termanology-this is hip-hop
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5c_HuJ8NpTs
dead prez-hip-hop
http://youtube.com/watch?v=j3RieNmqAws
lupe fiasco-hip hop saved my life
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ilbmcUARsqY
joell ortiz-hip hop rmx
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mFhauG9ys34
Hip hop poll?
I like termanology!!!!!!!
Reply:dead prez
Reply:yep dead prez
Reply:lupe :)
Reply:dead prez
classic one of the best tracks in hip hop history
Reply:Lupe!!!!
fake gold teeth
termanology-this is hip-hop
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5c_HuJ8NpTs
dead prez-hip-hop
http://youtube.com/watch?v=j3RieNmqAws
lupe fiasco-hip hop saved my life
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ilbmcUARsqY
joell ortiz-hip hop rmx
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mFhauG9ys34
Hip hop poll?
I like termanology!!!!!!!
Reply:dead prez
Reply:yep dead prez
Reply:lupe :)
Reply:dead prez
classic one of the best tracks in hip hop history
Reply:Lupe!!!!
fake gold teeth
Hip-hop fans only?
I've heard many people say that hip-hop is a culture and not just a genre of music. What exactly does that mean?
I live in near an area that is predominantly black and hispanic (I'm Native-American:Sierra Miwok, so don't start throwing the convenient "racist" tag on me) and most of the music and fashion styles I hear and see are hip-hop...especially gangsta rap. I've noticed several things, such as:
1-A lot of "R.I.P." decals on the back windows of cars with someone's birthday and date of death. Most of the dead are in their teens and twenties.
2-A lot of young, single mothers.
3-A lot of drugs...I mean a whole lot!
4-A lot of unsupervised children
5-A lot of violent crime
6-A lot of "Stop snitchin'" t-shirts and bumper stickers.
Is all of this a part of the hip-hip culture? Is it just an expression of the way many hip-hop fans live, or is this celebrated in hip-hop?
I don't know...I'm asking.
Hip-hop fans only?
Those 6 things you listed are a byproduct of low-income lifestyle. Basically saying, people being broke.
As you already know hip-hop is a culture. This culture is comprised of 4 elements. Graffiti art, MC's, breakdancing, and DJ's. Graffiti is street art. A way of expressing oneself.
http://delarge.co.uk/gfx/pages/gjamP1010...
http://www.iol.ie/~graffitirock/320.jpg
But the people didn't like how it looked so they outlawed it. MC's are the poets of hip-hop. As my teacher once said,
"If you don't like music, you don't like poetry".
Topics can vary from surviving on the streets(Nas) to exposing political leaders of their flaws(Immortal Technique) or to rap about social issues(Public Enemy).
Breakdancing is the dancing found in hp-hop culture. It's quite difficult for inexperienced people. They people who breakdance are referred to as B-boys or B-girls.
DJ's are the ones responsible with making music or mixing music for the MC's to rap and for the B-boys and girls to dance to. DJ Happee and DJ Shadow are some of my favorites.
Gansta rap is and has been giving hip-hop a bad name.
So I basically answered your question with my first 2 sentences but I felt like I needed to explain hip-hop to you. Gangsta rap is only a subgenre of the music. Gangsta is another culture in itself. #6 you listed is a code of the street. Just like in the mafia days, no squealing because you know what happens to squealers. #2 is because some men are just assholes. Any coward can make a baby but it takes a man to raise a child. Even so, a lot of these kids smokin and trying to act hard, they're just fakes and wannabes. They wouldn't last a week in prison.
Reply:Once again, people assume. I was merely stating that. I don't condone any of that activity. Report It
Reply:Bo, Greetings Friend,
Hope your having a great day!
Here is my opinion and what I think about it. I hope it helps.
I believe that "Hip-Hop" gangsta music is cultural in nature.
I believe that "Hip-Hop" gangsta music is a culture "with-in" their own culture ...as a people. However, I do not believe that as a people of culture that they "all" embrace or accept it any more than I do. I certainly do not accept any thing connected to it; like private enterprised individual(s), corporations, State or U.S. Govermental laws that support and protect them in their degradation of the American family and nation.
I mean ...(all Americans) whether you live on or off of the tribal Resevation(s) or not. We are together, all of us. When one of us steps out of line by harming any of the rest of us as a (U.S.) "Family Nation" I get concerned.
Gangsta music and its collective own culture is actively engaging in the "Over Throw" Of The "United States Government" as I'm speaking to you.
Someone said (Pogo); "We looked for the enemy ...and they are us".
Now, in my (Ex) "Military Mind" That "gangsta song" ...any "gangsta song" might as well be a bullet with my name on it or the name of one of my American family's names on it; ... including any and all of my Indian Nation brother and sisters ...and all of their precious children.
Hip-hop culture as you have so well listed above certainly includes all that will kill us as a nation. Items (1 through 6) is very much celebrated by them.
It promotes anarchy and subversiveness of our country and our families (mine and yours "individually" and in "standing collectively together"...one for the other).
They are terrorists along with those who support them.
I believe in free speech except in the covert and overt over throw of our Government. It is our duty to police our own ..."Our Enemy within".
Its just an opinion and Its mine and I just love it ...
Ed
Reply:ur prolly right Ant
Reply:Yea its one of those...But if u dwell on the negative then thats all you are gonna see. Because the picture youre painting isnt true...sounds like something from a video
Reply:say what??
keep kool
Reply:Get in wher you fit in, come on now def jam def poetry bad boys of comedy clothes hip hop is a state of mind. I just got reading your opion hip hop is a family now be honest how many good you have in your family how many bad you have in your family it's deeper than what you think answer me though how many good you have and how many bad you have in your family we got our cool uncles mosdef,talib kweli and so much more, we got our eminem
and luke down south our uncle that kinda make you scratch your temple we have our cool aunts mary j. lauphin and mc lyte we have our damn why cousins trina and those other now once again in your family is it all good answer me answer me!!!!!!
PHILLY STAND UP I NEED YOU BLACK THOUGHT AND JILL SCOTT, for this dude THIS DUDE DONT GOT NO BEEF EVE AND BEANS CHILL ON THIS.
I live in near an area that is predominantly black and hispanic (I'm Native-American:Sierra Miwok, so don't start throwing the convenient "racist" tag on me) and most of the music and fashion styles I hear and see are hip-hop...especially gangsta rap. I've noticed several things, such as:
1-A lot of "R.I.P." decals on the back windows of cars with someone's birthday and date of death. Most of the dead are in their teens and twenties.
2-A lot of young, single mothers.
3-A lot of drugs...I mean a whole lot!
4-A lot of unsupervised children
5-A lot of violent crime
6-A lot of "Stop snitchin'" t-shirts and bumper stickers.
Is all of this a part of the hip-hip culture? Is it just an expression of the way many hip-hop fans live, or is this celebrated in hip-hop?
I don't know...I'm asking.
Hip-hop fans only?
Those 6 things you listed are a byproduct of low-income lifestyle. Basically saying, people being broke.
As you already know hip-hop is a culture. This culture is comprised of 4 elements. Graffiti art, MC's, breakdancing, and DJ's. Graffiti is street art. A way of expressing oneself.
http://delarge.co.uk/gfx/pages/gjamP1010...
http://www.iol.ie/~graffitirock/320.jpg
But the people didn't like how it looked so they outlawed it. MC's are the poets of hip-hop. As my teacher once said,
"If you don't like music, you don't like poetry".
Topics can vary from surviving on the streets(Nas) to exposing political leaders of their flaws(Immortal Technique) or to rap about social issues(Public Enemy).
Breakdancing is the dancing found in hp-hop culture. It's quite difficult for inexperienced people. They people who breakdance are referred to as B-boys or B-girls.
DJ's are the ones responsible with making music or mixing music for the MC's to rap and for the B-boys and girls to dance to. DJ Happee and DJ Shadow are some of my favorites.
Gansta rap is and has been giving hip-hop a bad name.
So I basically answered your question with my first 2 sentences but I felt like I needed to explain hip-hop to you. Gangsta rap is only a subgenre of the music. Gangsta is another culture in itself. #6 you listed is a code of the street. Just like in the mafia days, no squealing because you know what happens to squealers. #2 is because some men are just assholes. Any coward can make a baby but it takes a man to raise a child. Even so, a lot of these kids smokin and trying to act hard, they're just fakes and wannabes. They wouldn't last a week in prison.
Reply:Once again, people assume. I was merely stating that. I don't condone any of that activity. Report It
Reply:Bo, Greetings Friend,
Hope your having a great day!
Here is my opinion and what I think about it. I hope it helps.
I believe that "Hip-Hop" gangsta music is cultural in nature.
I believe that "Hip-Hop" gangsta music is a culture "with-in" their own culture ...as a people. However, I do not believe that as a people of culture that they "all" embrace or accept it any more than I do. I certainly do not accept any thing connected to it; like private enterprised individual(s), corporations, State or U.S. Govermental laws that support and protect them in their degradation of the American family and nation.
I mean ...(all Americans) whether you live on or off of the tribal Resevation(s) or not. We are together, all of us. When one of us steps out of line by harming any of the rest of us as a (U.S.) "Family Nation" I get concerned.
Gangsta music and its collective own culture is actively engaging in the "Over Throw" Of The "United States Government" as I'm speaking to you.
Someone said (Pogo); "We looked for the enemy ...and they are us".
Now, in my (Ex) "Military Mind" That "gangsta song" ...any "gangsta song" might as well be a bullet with my name on it or the name of one of my American family's names on it; ... including any and all of my Indian Nation brother and sisters ...and all of their precious children.
Hip-hop culture as you have so well listed above certainly includes all that will kill us as a nation. Items (1 through 6) is very much celebrated by them.
It promotes anarchy and subversiveness of our country and our families (mine and yours "individually" and in "standing collectively together"...one for the other).
They are terrorists along with those who support them.
I believe in free speech except in the covert and overt over throw of our Government. It is our duty to police our own ..."Our Enemy within".
Its just an opinion and Its mine and I just love it ...
Ed
Reply:ur prolly right Ant
Reply:Yea its one of those...But if u dwell on the negative then thats all you are gonna see. Because the picture youre painting isnt true...sounds like something from a video
Reply:say what??
keep kool
Reply:Get in wher you fit in, come on now def jam def poetry bad boys of comedy clothes hip hop is a state of mind. I just got reading your opion hip hop is a family now be honest how many good you have in your family how many bad you have in your family it's deeper than what you think answer me though how many good you have and how many bad you have in your family we got our cool uncles mosdef,talib kweli and so much more, we got our eminem
and luke down south our uncle that kinda make you scratch your temple we have our cool aunts mary j. lauphin and mc lyte we have our damn why cousins trina and those other now once again in your family is it all good answer me answer me!!!!!!
PHILLY STAND UP I NEED YOU BLACK THOUGHT AND JILL SCOTT, for this dude THIS DUDE DONT GOT NO BEEF EVE AND BEANS CHILL ON THIS.
Hip hop is DEAD?
Shut the **** up! I'm real sick of these pointless recurring questions. You wanna know why hip hop is dead? Because you keep on asking the same damn questions! Can't you think of anything else to talk about besides who killed it or who the best rapper is? Far as I can see, hip hop is alive and kickin. So many people complaining about how much the music has changed like it's a bad thing, but EVERYTHING changes over time! What, you thought you would live out the 80s or 90s for the rest of your life? Of course I respect those who keep the tradition alive and are still able to keep it fresh, but a lot of listeners need to open their eyes to different sounds. Hip hop is only dead if you think it is. If you're a true part of the hip hop culture, you would learn to love and embrace ALL of hip hop whether it be new or old or from the North, East, West, or South. Loosen up, you too tight.
And as far as who the best rapper is:
"Who's the best? Pac, Nas, and Big,
AIN'T NO BEST..."
Hip hop is DEAD?
whatever homie. i dont feel like readin all them s hits you typed and hip hop AINT DEAD. if you think it is thats fine but dont try to shove yo opinion down our throats. just keep it to yourself homie. preciate cha
Reply:As long as hurricane chris and souljaboy stop rapping ill be happy
Reply:As the Hulk Man Would say "right on Brotha"
Just because NAS made a song about it everybody feels the need to ask every 2 min on YA,
Reply:yeah whateva PAC BEST
2 pointz...blah ya mad
Reply:Hey you agree with NAS
Reply:true true. tired of answering those kinds of questions.
im guessing you like dj 9th wonder, good taste
Reply:Actually, when Nas says that, he means "Ain't no best" as in him Pac and Big are all on that level. He meant them three are the best. And he was also right that hip hop is dead, for the same reason you complain about these questions-- its REPETETIVE. It's all the same, nobody is real anymore in rap. In the 80s and 90s, everybody had their own style, and there was a much larger variety than all the junk you hear on the radio about cars and jewelery. It's too one-dimensional.
Reply:I agree with u... I actual like the new rap better. Most of my rap on my iPod was made in the last 3 years. (The oldest is Dr. Dre's 2001 album)
And as far as who the best rapper is:
"Who's the best? Pac, Nas, and Big,
AIN'T NO BEST..."
Hip hop is DEAD?
whatever homie. i dont feel like readin all them s hits you typed and hip hop AINT DEAD. if you think it is thats fine but dont try to shove yo opinion down our throats. just keep it to yourself homie. preciate cha
Reply:As long as hurricane chris and souljaboy stop rapping ill be happy
Reply:As the Hulk Man Would say "right on Brotha"
Just because NAS made a song about it everybody feels the need to ask every 2 min on YA,
Reply:yeah whateva PAC BEST
2 pointz...blah ya mad
Reply:Hey you agree with NAS
Reply:true true. tired of answering those kinds of questions.
im guessing you like dj 9th wonder, good taste
Reply:Actually, when Nas says that, he means "Ain't no best" as in him Pac and Big are all on that level. He meant them three are the best. And he was also right that hip hop is dead, for the same reason you complain about these questions-- its REPETETIVE. It's all the same, nobody is real anymore in rap. In the 80s and 90s, everybody had their own style, and there was a much larger variety than all the junk you hear on the radio about cars and jewelery. It's too one-dimensional.
Reply:I agree with u... I actual like the new rap better. Most of my rap on my iPod was made in the last 3 years. (The oldest is Dr. Dre's 2001 album)
Some Hip Hop Fans Don't even know ..........?!?!?!?
Ya know...I notice there's alot of people here that listen to Hip Hop style music but do they REALLY KNOW what Hip Hop is %26amp; What Rap is?!
Some people don't even know what rapping is because they say statements such as:
1."Chris Brown is a good rapper!!"
2."Akon didn't know how to rap on his last track!"
3."T-Pain %26amp; R Kelly should do a rap song together..I love those rappers!"
4."We went to the Usher rap concert..it was GREAT DUDE!"
These are all R%26amp;B artist with a Hip Hop style..that DON'T make them rappers.
Hip Hop is the Genre...Rap is the music...you see the difference?
The 4-Elements of Hip Hop:
1. Rapping(rhymes/lyrics)
2. DJ-ing
3. Graffiti (Wall/Subway Art)
4. Breakdancing
My question is why do some Hip Hop fans say R%26amp;B singers are "rappers" when it's VERY OBVIOUS they're not?
Some Hip Hop Fans Don't even know ..........?!?!?!?
Because... They may like rap/hip-hop but they aren't rap/hip-hop fanatics.
They don't love it like most rap/hip-hop fans do, they just listen to it without really paying attention. Those are usually the same people that love Soulja Boy and all that other mess.
But to the person above me... What in the hell are you talking about?
"Because theyre black and some people think that all black people who are in music are rappers / hip-hop artists?"
Lol, you are even dumber that the people that think certain R%26amp;B artists are really rappers. SMH...
Reply:Yeah you are right
I think it's because theyre black and some people think that all black people who are in music are rappers / hip-hop artists.
Reply:because they only listen to the big hits and song played on mix stations like kiss fm.
you have to be a true hiphop connoseiur to tell the difference
Reply:lol, i dont think people are as dedicated to hip-hop as you are. It's just that they're ignorant. They like what they hear but they don't feel what they hear, if u get what i mean.
Reply:if they listen to it and think theyre rappers they are stupid, but if they just hear about them, igeuss since they see them collaborate with actaul emcees they think there the same even though they make obviously different music.
Reply:Yeah i read some a that.there was a question on Y!A askin some of the good new rap songs . and some answers were:
- sorry blame it on me_ Akon
-Beautiful_Sean Kingston
....etc.
Reply:The answer lies in your question young grasshopper. It is because they are hip hop "fans". They do not live the culture of hip hop, they just observe it. They picked up the catch phrase from the media and they apply it to most black music of urban origin. They are on the fringes and should not be held accountable for their ignorance of the culture-changing impact hip hop has had on the world.
Reply:Yup I know the difference, Lol. Although I'm not gonna lie at first I thought T-pain was a rapper. Clearly after listening to it a couple times I could see he is just an R%26amp;B star.
Reply:they just don't have the life experience to tell the difference
Reply:Their not real true hip hop fans that know the difference, they just followin the crowd
Some people don't even know what rapping is because they say statements such as:
1."Chris Brown is a good rapper!!"
2."Akon didn't know how to rap on his last track!"
3."T-Pain %26amp; R Kelly should do a rap song together..I love those rappers!"
4."We went to the Usher rap concert..it was GREAT DUDE!"
These are all R%26amp;B artist with a Hip Hop style..that DON'T make them rappers.
Hip Hop is the Genre...Rap is the music...you see the difference?
The 4-Elements of Hip Hop:
1. Rapping(rhymes/lyrics)
2. DJ-ing
3. Graffiti (Wall/Subway Art)
4. Breakdancing
My question is why do some Hip Hop fans say R%26amp;B singers are "rappers" when it's VERY OBVIOUS they're not?
Some Hip Hop Fans Don't even know ..........?!?!?!?
Because... They may like rap/hip-hop but they aren't rap/hip-hop fanatics.
They don't love it like most rap/hip-hop fans do, they just listen to it without really paying attention. Those are usually the same people that love Soulja Boy and all that other mess.
But to the person above me... What in the hell are you talking about?
"Because theyre black and some people think that all black people who are in music are rappers / hip-hop artists?"
Lol, you are even dumber that the people that think certain R%26amp;B artists are really rappers. SMH...
Reply:Yeah you are right
I think it's because theyre black and some people think that all black people who are in music are rappers / hip-hop artists.
Reply:because they only listen to the big hits and song played on mix stations like kiss fm.
you have to be a true hiphop connoseiur to tell the difference
Reply:lol, i dont think people are as dedicated to hip-hop as you are. It's just that they're ignorant. They like what they hear but they don't feel what they hear, if u get what i mean.
Reply:if they listen to it and think theyre rappers they are stupid, but if they just hear about them, igeuss since they see them collaborate with actaul emcees they think there the same even though they make obviously different music.
Reply:Yeah i read some a that.there was a question on Y!A askin some of the good new rap songs . and some answers were:
- sorry blame it on me_ Akon
-Beautiful_Sean Kingston
....etc.
Reply:The answer lies in your question young grasshopper. It is because they are hip hop "fans". They do not live the culture of hip hop, they just observe it. They picked up the catch phrase from the media and they apply it to most black music of urban origin. They are on the fringes and should not be held accountable for their ignorance of the culture-changing impact hip hop has had on the world.
Reply:Yup I know the difference, Lol. Although I'm not gonna lie at first I thought T-pain was a rapper. Clearly after listening to it a couple times I could see he is just an R%26amp;B star.
Reply:they just don't have the life experience to tell the difference
Reply:Their not real true hip hop fans that know the difference, they just followin the crowd
So-Called Hip Hop fans DON'T KNOW.........?
Alright..I'm looking at Yahoo answer %26amp; looking at answers on Soulja Boy. People are saying he's cool, cute, %26amp; got an hot song %26amp; saying "That's Hip Hop!"
These are the same people that don't even know anything about Hip Hop Culture %26amp; don't even take the time to look into the roots of it. I bet they don't know who these artists are or NEVER even listened to them once:
1.Slick Rick
2.Big Daddy Kane
3.Das Efx
4.EPMD
5.Leaders Of The New School
6.MC Lyte
7.Audio Two
8.Special Ed
9. 3rd Bass
10.Kool Moe Dee
11.Brand Nubian
12.Eric B %26amp; Rakim
13. Dana Dane
14. Marley Marl
15. Roxanne Shante
15. Boogie Down Productions
If you don't know at least 1/2 these artist then you can't say what is Hip Hop. Soulja Boy is anything but Hip Hop.
My question is..why do people that ONLY KNOW an inch of HIP HOP say anything that plays on the radio/TV or in the clubs is Hip Hop. These are the same people that just started listening to Hip Hop a few years ago,before this it might have been rock/pop/dance etc.
So-Called Hip Hop fans DON'T KNOW.........?
I agree with you 100% on everything you've said. And I agree with Gabe M. The music industry, producers just want to get paid. They're not even looking or thinking about artistic work anymore. It's all about the dollar. Soulja Boy (for example) is not a Hip Hop, he is HIP POP. I just wish they would make another term, so we can all make the distiniction between the two... I just can't stand for people to mention Hurricane Chris, Soulja Boy etc... in the same sentence with Big L or Biggie or Rakim or Lupe etc.
Reply:you think you know so much about hip hop.....if that was the case, you would know that Soulja Boy IS Hip Hop, he makes fun records, became popular for the dance record. Isnt dancing apart of hip hop? people dont have to listen to the 15 artists you named to "know" hip hop..More annoying than the stans on here, are the people who come here and try to push their beliefs that they know so much about hip hop...stop worrying about what the next person on Y!A is listening to and just do you
Reply:aight....so whats ya question? okay i agree on what you say about the ppl, but do you have to put them on blast like that? They main stream and 98% of the world is like that my dude so chill. Give ya self props an move on.
Reply:Unfortunately they are basing it on parts of the beat and little if anything on the lyrics and the the biggest offenders are the radio stations and the so called disk jockeys!
Reply:I know 10 of those dudes, and let me say.. they were awesome.
They practically made Hip Hop!
Soulja Boy is just a [retty voice with voice enchancers hes a fake, some good sogs tho.
Them dudes above kick his *** hardcore
Reply:I haven't listen to a lot of those guys, but I have heard of some of the top two, and have listened to Slick Rick. Most people have no idea what true hip-hop is because producers want to SELL. I understand that you're disgruntled about people who don't know what real hip hop is, but their ignorance surprisingly enough is NOT their fault. It's the damn music industry's.
Reply:Soulja boy is as hip hop as Lil' Wayne, and all them other clowns who give hip hop a bad name. All of the above that you named are real hip hop, and I could add a good few more too. The mistake a lot of people make is that when they hear somebody 'rap' over a catchy beat, they want to label it as hip hop. They dead wrong.
edit. . .whoever gave me a thumbs down is just a wack *** soulja boy fan. Even my 7 year old won't listen to that crap, his favourite artist is Ice Cube, 'cos his momma taught him well.
Reply:because half of the people caliming to be hip-hop are teen kids who didnt grow up in the early days of hip-hop. you cant get a kid to listen to classic hip-hop if their parents didnt listen to hip-hop. for kids to grow up listening to classic hip-hop you need to have parents that grew up listening to hip-hop. I am a classic hip-hop head born 1970's So I do listen to the classics in the car so my kids have no choice but to listen to it. They don't know it's old and they sing to it so my kids will be true hip-hop heads when they become teens.
Reply:dude...you forgot Too Short
Reply:your right, soulja boy is NOT hip hop.... wot idiot wud think he was? i may not be the best the best person for knowing wot hip hop is and isn't but i wouolld never think soulja boy was representative for hip hop music.
if anythin, he's conformiing for the popular culture... he's lyk da franchise boys. completely stupid...
Reply:Yes I do definetly get your point. Can I also add, The Roots, Talib Kweli, Jadakiss and Phonte to your list.
All very good and not all about Bums and Booty's.
Reply:Because you grew up listening to those particuliar artists. Just because there all 50 years old and dead, doesnt mean you have to knock down other peoples opinions. Who wants to listen to a shitty *** song with the most annoying beat with boring voices.
Snoop Dogg
Eminem
Tupac
Jay-Z
Ice cube
^I think they are very good artists. Now would I say "THATS REAL HIP HOP?" Yes I would because thats who I grew up listening to.
Noone listens to them people on your list at all. Noone even knows them. Either your some kid claiming its cool to listen to Ol' school hip hop and listening to other peoples opinions too much, or just your 50 years old.
Reply:soulja boy is the black vanilla ice lmao
Reply:mos def, talib, a tribe called quest
Reply:hippy hoppy or rap is mindless moronism who all sound alike and do the same hand gestures when singing oops wrong word.that should be saying.you know wot i mean?crap
Reply:WHO CARES ??
YOUS A WACKY OL STOOPID @SS
Reply:Well some people don't devote their life to getting to the roots of hip hop... it's really not relevant to leading a successful life...
it's to bad you can't get a job knowing the roots of hip hop... who cares what they listen to... you aren't better because you know who 15 "Hip hop" artists are...
I don't know any hip hop or rap artists... do I care... NO!!!!!!
i'm sure you can't name 15 drum n bass dj's....
this is the most stupid question i've heard all day. and you are just giving a sterotype more fuel for the fire...
way to go.
i see a successful future for you.
yellow teeth
These are the same people that don't even know anything about Hip Hop Culture %26amp; don't even take the time to look into the roots of it. I bet they don't know who these artists are or NEVER even listened to them once:
1.Slick Rick
2.Big Daddy Kane
3.Das Efx
4.EPMD
5.Leaders Of The New School
6.MC Lyte
7.Audio Two
8.Special Ed
9. 3rd Bass
10.Kool Moe Dee
11.Brand Nubian
12.Eric B %26amp; Rakim
13. Dana Dane
14. Marley Marl
15. Roxanne Shante
15. Boogie Down Productions
If you don't know at least 1/2 these artist then you can't say what is Hip Hop. Soulja Boy is anything but Hip Hop.
My question is..why do people that ONLY KNOW an inch of HIP HOP say anything that plays on the radio/TV or in the clubs is Hip Hop. These are the same people that just started listening to Hip Hop a few years ago,before this it might have been rock/pop/dance etc.
So-Called Hip Hop fans DON'T KNOW.........?
I agree with you 100% on everything you've said. And I agree with Gabe M. The music industry, producers just want to get paid. They're not even looking or thinking about artistic work anymore. It's all about the dollar. Soulja Boy (for example) is not a Hip Hop, he is HIP POP. I just wish they would make another term, so we can all make the distiniction between the two... I just can't stand for people to mention Hurricane Chris, Soulja Boy etc... in the same sentence with Big L or Biggie or Rakim or Lupe etc.
Reply:you think you know so much about hip hop.....if that was the case, you would know that Soulja Boy IS Hip Hop, he makes fun records, became popular for the dance record. Isnt dancing apart of hip hop? people dont have to listen to the 15 artists you named to "know" hip hop..More annoying than the stans on here, are the people who come here and try to push their beliefs that they know so much about hip hop...stop worrying about what the next person on Y!A is listening to and just do you
Reply:aight....so whats ya question? okay i agree on what you say about the ppl, but do you have to put them on blast like that? They main stream and 98% of the world is like that my dude so chill. Give ya self props an move on.
Reply:Unfortunately they are basing it on parts of the beat and little if anything on the lyrics and the the biggest offenders are the radio stations and the so called disk jockeys!
Reply:I know 10 of those dudes, and let me say.. they were awesome.
They practically made Hip Hop!
Soulja Boy is just a [retty voice with voice enchancers hes a fake, some good sogs tho.
Them dudes above kick his *** hardcore
Reply:I haven't listen to a lot of those guys, but I have heard of some of the top two, and have listened to Slick Rick. Most people have no idea what true hip-hop is because producers want to SELL. I understand that you're disgruntled about people who don't know what real hip hop is, but their ignorance surprisingly enough is NOT their fault. It's the damn music industry's.
Reply:Soulja boy is as hip hop as Lil' Wayne, and all them other clowns who give hip hop a bad name. All of the above that you named are real hip hop, and I could add a good few more too. The mistake a lot of people make is that when they hear somebody 'rap' over a catchy beat, they want to label it as hip hop. They dead wrong.
edit. . .whoever gave me a thumbs down is just a wack *** soulja boy fan. Even my 7 year old won't listen to that crap, his favourite artist is Ice Cube, 'cos his momma taught him well.
Reply:because half of the people caliming to be hip-hop are teen kids who didnt grow up in the early days of hip-hop. you cant get a kid to listen to classic hip-hop if their parents didnt listen to hip-hop. for kids to grow up listening to classic hip-hop you need to have parents that grew up listening to hip-hop. I am a classic hip-hop head born 1970's So I do listen to the classics in the car so my kids have no choice but to listen to it. They don't know it's old and they sing to it so my kids will be true hip-hop heads when they become teens.
Reply:dude...you forgot Too Short
Reply:your right, soulja boy is NOT hip hop.... wot idiot wud think he was? i may not be the best the best person for knowing wot hip hop is and isn't but i wouolld never think soulja boy was representative for hip hop music.
if anythin, he's conformiing for the popular culture... he's lyk da franchise boys. completely stupid...
Reply:Yes I do definetly get your point. Can I also add, The Roots, Talib Kweli, Jadakiss and Phonte to your list.
All very good and not all about Bums and Booty's.
Reply:Because you grew up listening to those particuliar artists. Just because there all 50 years old and dead, doesnt mean you have to knock down other peoples opinions. Who wants to listen to a shitty *** song with the most annoying beat with boring voices.
Snoop Dogg
Eminem
Tupac
Jay-Z
Ice cube
^I think they are very good artists. Now would I say "THATS REAL HIP HOP?" Yes I would because thats who I grew up listening to.
Noone listens to them people on your list at all. Noone even knows them. Either your some kid claiming its cool to listen to Ol' school hip hop and listening to other peoples opinions too much, or just your 50 years old.
Reply:soulja boy is the black vanilla ice lmao
Reply:mos def, talib, a tribe called quest
Reply:hippy hoppy or rap is mindless moronism who all sound alike and do the same hand gestures when singing oops wrong word.that should be saying.you know wot i mean?crap
Reply:WHO CARES ??
YOUS A WACKY OL STOOPID @SS
Reply:Well some people don't devote their life to getting to the roots of hip hop... it's really not relevant to leading a successful life...
it's to bad you can't get a job knowing the roots of hip hop... who cares what they listen to... you aren't better because you know who 15 "Hip hop" artists are...
I don't know any hip hop or rap artists... do I care... NO!!!!!!
i'm sure you can't name 15 drum n bass dj's....
this is the most stupid question i've heard all day. and you are just giving a sterotype more fuel for the fire...
way to go.
i see a successful future for you.
yellow teeth
Is hip hop really dead?
My bf and I got into a huge argument over this. One thing to point out is that he is from Chicago and I am from Alanta so I think that has some to do with it. He said that this new "crap" that comes out is not hip hop. He says its all pop music. He said that once the ditzy blonde white devils start dancing and listening to it thats when he knew hip hop was dieing. He says its all owned by corporations now. I dont think it is dead it just may be different. I like all the beats I dont really care what the song is about as long as I can shake to it. He said that Nas is one of the greatest rappers alive and if he thinks hip hop is dead then hip hop is dead. He also hurt me a little bit cause he really made fun of the south. He was making fun of the grills and souja boy crank that. He hates that song for some reason. But he said that the South started the downfall of hip hop. I got really pissed at that comment. What do y'all think of this? Is hip hop really dead?
Is hip hop really dead?
*SIGH* No.
This question gets asked, 100 million times per week.
Reply:i dont think that hip hop is really dead but it is fading away! i love hip hop and it will always be with me but the way things are going i can see a real big change!all these major corporatons make some small thing seem so big and they penalyze these rappers for things they speak! nas even said that hip hop is dead! idk for sure but i know that it is surely fading away!
Reply:HIP HOP IS ALIVE
"He says its all pop music. He said that once the ditzy blonde white devils start dancing and listening to it thats when he knew hip hop was dieing. He says its all owned by corporations now."
- But your BF is right about this stuff
Reply:stop asking this question
im tired of ppl asking dis question more then once a day!
NO Its not dead
Reply:only if u get sucked into all the crap music out there that only talks about sex drugs and money. If you want good hip hop listen to lupe fiasco and his new album comin out dec 18.
this is the leak of the album from MTV but i wont listen till the album comes out. spoil yourself if u want http://www.mtv.com/sitewide/apps/mediapl...
Reply:Yes hip-hop is not quite dead, but it is dying. Hip-hop started out as a movement with a message, not something to move to (or shake to it as you so aptly put it). Soulja Boy's Crank that is a perfect example of this and your boyfriend new you liked the song so he picked it out as an example. I don't think the "white devil" comment was very well thought out. Hip-Hop today's only messages are about sex, drugs, money, violence. It's only purpose is to sell sell sell.
As long as artists like Nas are still around Hip-Hop won't die out entirely, but to true fans, the music today is killing hip-hop.
Also, your comment about how you don't care what the song is about as long as you can shake to it shows how ignorant you really are on the subject.
Reply:hip hop is a live, from the north west to the deep south, artists are still doing their thing who cares who likes their music if its white blond haired college girls or blacks or hispanics. nas is not the best rapper a live i would of disagreed with him on that one if i were you lol. how can he say the south is starting the downfall of hip hop there are lots of good artists that come out of the south. lots of people try and get there start in atlanta because of the big hip hop/ rap presence. but your boyfriend is very wrong and how can he make fun of the south when he is dating a girl from the south?
Reply:no let him believe himself
Reply:NO ITS NOT
Reply:It's not dead, but he's not wrong either. Pop music is short for popular music and that's just what it is.
Reply:Hip hop is alive.... its just not as good as it used to be just like 90's R%26amp;B..
Reply:i don`t think so.there is Eminem
Reply:the true form of hip hop has died although there is a very small remnant of true hip hop artist still around but basically what is known as hip hop in the commercial realm is definitely pop music with a hip hop flavor and i agree the south has a lot to do with that
Reply:no comment
Is hip hop really dead?
*SIGH* No.
This question gets asked, 100 million times per week.
Reply:i dont think that hip hop is really dead but it is fading away! i love hip hop and it will always be with me but the way things are going i can see a real big change!all these major corporatons make some small thing seem so big and they penalyze these rappers for things they speak! nas even said that hip hop is dead! idk for sure but i know that it is surely fading away!
Reply:HIP HOP IS ALIVE
"He says its all pop music. He said that once the ditzy blonde white devils start dancing and listening to it thats when he knew hip hop was dieing. He says its all owned by corporations now."
- But your BF is right about this stuff
Reply:stop asking this question
im tired of ppl asking dis question more then once a day!
NO Its not dead
Reply:only if u get sucked into all the crap music out there that only talks about sex drugs and money. If you want good hip hop listen to lupe fiasco and his new album comin out dec 18.
this is the leak of the album from MTV but i wont listen till the album comes out. spoil yourself if u want http://www.mtv.com/sitewide/apps/mediapl...
Reply:Yes hip-hop is not quite dead, but it is dying. Hip-hop started out as a movement with a message, not something to move to (or shake to it as you so aptly put it). Soulja Boy's Crank that is a perfect example of this and your boyfriend new you liked the song so he picked it out as an example. I don't think the "white devil" comment was very well thought out. Hip-Hop today's only messages are about sex, drugs, money, violence. It's only purpose is to sell sell sell.
As long as artists like Nas are still around Hip-Hop won't die out entirely, but to true fans, the music today is killing hip-hop.
Also, your comment about how you don't care what the song is about as long as you can shake to it shows how ignorant you really are on the subject.
Reply:hip hop is a live, from the north west to the deep south, artists are still doing their thing who cares who likes their music if its white blond haired college girls or blacks or hispanics. nas is not the best rapper a live i would of disagreed with him on that one if i were you lol. how can he say the south is starting the downfall of hip hop there are lots of good artists that come out of the south. lots of people try and get there start in atlanta because of the big hip hop/ rap presence. but your boyfriend is very wrong and how can he make fun of the south when he is dating a girl from the south?
Reply:no let him believe himself
Reply:NO ITS NOT
Reply:It's not dead, but he's not wrong either. Pop music is short for popular music and that's just what it is.
Reply:Hip hop is alive.... its just not as good as it used to be just like 90's R%26amp;B..
Reply:i don`t think so.there is Eminem
Reply:the true form of hip hop has died although there is a very small remnant of true hip hop artist still around but basically what is known as hip hop in the commercial realm is definitely pop music with a hip hop flavor and i agree the south has a lot to do with that
Reply:no comment
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