Thursday, November 19, 2009

Is hip hop dying, or is it already dead?

I mean, I never listen to my local hip hop/R%26amp;B station anymore because they only play either bad whiny-voiced juvenile singers (like Lloyd, Chris Brown, TPain) or equally bad rappers (Young Joc, Young Jeezy, Mims, Lil Wayne). Kanye West, Lupe Fiasco, Common, and T.I. are pretty much the only new music I download. In fact, I enjoy my local talk-radio station more than today's music because it actually has a meaning and is interesting.





Hip Hop used to have a meaning but now it's all about the women, the cars, the jewelry, and how much money you have. And it stinks! My mp3 player only has old music, and I only add songs that I suddenly remember I loved or a rare hit that I hear on the radio. Other than that I don't really listen to today's hip hop.





Okay, glad I got that off my chest, does anybody else agree with me?

Is hip hop dying, or is it already dead?
I agree with you!!! And I agree with Charlotte too. Especially mims, sorriest one-hit wonder every to pick up a mic.





All that's on TV and the radio anymore is a minstrel show for midwestern high school kids - but unfortunately everyone else is buying in too! Maybe I'm wrong? No, the programming on the radio and TV are still execrable.





I didn't listen to the radio for like eight years until recently finding classical music. And I like rap plenty- 'specially ice cube %26amp; young jeezy. As in other contemporary music I do try try to enjoy, the answer is DJ mixes hosted online. Find a DJ whose taste and style you like and then ask for other DJ's like him/her.





There's still real rap out there but it's being buried under an avalanche of minstrel stereotypes and conceited, cartoonish "thug juice" figureheads manufactured by the media. Even Nas has gone soft! I used to stick up for that cat. The Game is putting out some great work these days, but I try to prefer the East Coast sound.





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For hard #%26amp;@% of no redeeming social value, I actually like to go to either expo shows or gas stations in the 'hood and buy CD's by local DJ's and producers. That's never failed me :) though one is still stuck with uncomfortable misogynies instead of powerful, meaningful music. But at least it's loud and harsh :)
Reply:Hey thanks, I could use the street cred ;) Report It

Reply:add , Lil Brother to your list. Check out this song


http://youtube.com/watch?v=6aS... Report It

Reply:im not really a big rap fan to begin with, but i agree. i like dr dre and a few older guys, but its terrible now. its all about getting crunk and doing stupid dances like the ones you see in the videos. and the things you listed.
Reply:Duuuuude...stop asking this question.


http://answers.yahoo.com/search/search_r...
Reply:YES. i agree. im tired of this ish and i think im gonna give up rap.
Reply:I believe that hip hop is not dead. You are listening in the wrong places. Radios are run by idiots who are spoonfeeding bullsh*t to the masses. Masses that don't know any better. My friend's daughter goes on my computer and presses play on some stuff and looks at me with a smile on her face, like that sh*t is banging. Do you know how many times I told her to get out??





I hate to tell you but you are just gonna have to research in other places. I had to sign up with digital-djs.com to get me started. I Listen to dj's mixes ('specially dj1derful) and, thankfully, they posted who's stuff they used. That way I know who I like and who I will buy.





(Forgot to tell you. dj1derful.com is also where I go. Go to The Flavours tab. Hit up MDoc's Euphonic mix. It's good.)
Reply:I Feel The Same Exact Way But People Who Listen To That Shi*t Disagree THe Dont Wanna Here Real Rappers They wanna here stuff that sounds like stuff written by a first grader





Laffy Taffy Chicken Noddle Soup Lip Gloss Or Buy You A Drank And All These Stupid Dance Moves Pop Lock And Drop It 2 step and walk it out








Theres Still Some Real Rappers Like Nas Canibus Talib Kweli Mos Def Pharoc Monch








most Of The Sh*t They Play On The Radio Is Complete Trash but some people dont want to admit That is not rap its watered down bubble gum pop-rap and is nothing compared to sh*t from real MC's
Reply:Hip Hop isnt dead yet, but its dying at a quick speed....I totally agree, Lupe, Kanye, T.I., and Common are some of the few that are keeping it alive....dont forget Talib, Nas, Public Enemy, and Ice Cube!

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Is Hip Hop(Rap)dead,done,since 2Pac died?

I was and have been a fan of hip hop my whole life but to me since the late 90's early 2000's there has not been good music out.It is all about I got money and women.Not to mention the horrible songs hip hop is making for dance clubs(hey bay-bay).All have become unoriginal to me and got me moving to alternative music for orginality..I guess it circles around,but Hip Hop def. misses 2pac(the greatest.)A true lyricist.What do you think?

Is Hip Hop(Rap)dead,done,since 2Pac died?
yes and no because his songs were gangsta so he was hip-hop and no because the songs out today are still good but not as good or close to as 2pacs or Eazy-e's songs R.I.P homies.
Reply:unfortunately NO! Someone else will step forward soon.
Reply:Not at all there are still tons of good rappers (maybe I only like) like akon,50 cent,snoop dogg, Lil Wayne and lots more. It might just be that the best rapper (in your eyes) has died, but one person dieing is not going to make a whole style of music go with it.
Reply:NO there are tons of talented hip hop artists out there try listening to music from Kanye West, Missy Elliot, T-Pain, 50 cent, Flo Rida, Eve, Lil' Mama, these are some of the artists I like Sean Paul is also good


Are there any hip hop shows or underground places to listen hip hop music this weekend in Phoenix?

I will be in phoenix 6-29 til the first of july and want to go to a place to listen to some underground hip hop. Or check out a hip hop spot. Not a club person. I just wanna hear some hip hop. anybody know a place?

Are there any hip hop shows or underground places to listen hip hop music this weekend in Phoenix?
Hey Orland,





They tell me 'Ain't nobody's bizness' is a good place to check out.


http://www.thebiztuc.com/index.html


Gangsta versus Classic hip hip, 50 cent and Kanye West. What is your opinion on real hip hop versuse hip pop?

For those who go back far enough to remember when hip hop was more about your sound and lyrical delivery you will know Kanye West is hip hop at it's finest and 50 cent is a total gimmick. 50 is appealing to an audience who knows little to nothing about people like Nas, Dead Pres, Talib Kweli, KRS-One, Common ETC. 50 is doing exactly what he said on his SECOND album "get rich or die trying" 50 was a cold lyricist when he first hit the scene. When he realized suburban kids would rather by a gimmick rather than listen to a classic he totally let his hip hop soul die to get rich. Kanye West is nerdy and complains and would much rather put on a suit than gangsta attire but this is the essence of Hip Hop. Hip Hop has never been gangsta. Hell Dr. Dre and Ice Cube are good guys who fooled some into thinking they were gangsta. So when I hear people say 50 is real and Kanye is a nerd. I think Kanye is Hip Hop and 50 is a gimmick from the hood. So what do you think of gangsta versus hip hop?

Gangsta versus Classic hip hip, 50 cent and Kanye West. What is your opinion on real hip hop versuse hip pop?
gotta agree wit tha gurl above me hip hop is wat we live not a genre of muzik. rap music is a portion of hip hop. i grew up on tha gangsta rap, but ima hip hop head back to run dmc, kurtis blow tha whole nine ( ima dj, grafitti artist n tried breaking). sumthin we must understand is that common is stickin ta the original style a lot more than kanye, they are both great, love em both, but kanye has his guilty pleasures. n its not so much that they love hip hop anymore than weezy or flip or need i say 50 (who i dont like),but look at their roots, listen to the sound. they grew up in chi city where they were not only exposed ta run dmc but miles and coltrane. so their minds are more open, theyre entire love for muzik is expressed in their songs.


50 is as fake as he wanna be, wanksta was about him. quote me on that. kanye has meaningful muzik and other that isnt. but dont knock a rapper cause his struggle n how he expresses it is different than how nwa said f*** tha police or grandmaster flash said the message or eric b n rakim said know the ledge. every coast has different lingo and styles of rap, so it may not be how it started off but that doesnt make it trash. its sumthin new, its expanding. blame it on society.


TO END y r we sayin sumthin now in tha 2000's instead of back in the early 90's with luke cambell and the 2 live crew
Reply:Hip Hop consists of many different forms including rapping (also known as emceeing) and DJing...it wasnt until the 1990's that 'Gangsta Rap' was brought to the scene...Gangsta Rap is Hip Hop but only a slither of the whole consept...Hip Hop when broken down consists of many things...dissing Gangsta rap is in some way dissin the whole of Hip Hop
Reply:Well said. Its about time someone who knows what they are talking about breaks this down. I know Nas said "hip hop is dead" but Kanye, Common, Lupe Fiasco (Chi City Baby) are doing there part to resurrect her. 50 and all that south sh!t are keeping it on life support.
Reply:Gangsta rap is grade school, hip hop is graduate school. True hip hop is maturity, it's staying true to who you are and your purpose. Gangsta rap is a phase that youngster go through but eventually grow out of, hip hop is forever........
Reply:Well Sam, I couldn't agree more.





You summarized what happened, 50 Cent is a poor thing musically. He inherited the looks of N.W.A. and he somehow missed their musical skills.





On the other hand, Kanye West amazes me. He focused on nothing but his music. He rejected all the other ways that'd make him succeed (attire etc...) and instead of that he worked hard on his music (and you can see that when he was pissed off at the VMAs because they didn't reward his hardwork).





I praise K West for what he did. The way he chose is what makes him special and highly successful.
Reply:YOU FOOL 50 RULE
Reply:im all for supporting the real but kanye is just as pop as 50 is.


Is hip-hop more positive or more negative? How do you view hip-hop as a whole?

If anyone has real-talk and some knowledge to offer, please feel free. There is a big gap of misunderstanding in the world of hip-hop, and I will find out what it is, and it will start here! What's your views on hip-hop, be real and be honest!

Is hip-hop more positive or more negative? How do you view hip-hop as a whole?
As well as everyone else, I believe that hip hop was better back in the day and only a few artists are really accepting music as an art form. To me I feel like artists are using music as a way of fast money. Lets be really honest, half the songs we hear are about absolutely nothing. I believe anyone can sing "lean wit it, rock wit it", "I got my vans on but they look like sneakers"....they have the dumbest songs but are still considered to be "hip hop". What bothers me the most is how women are disrespected and the images children are exposed to. Women have been through way too much to gain equality to be subjected to how hip hop views them. I'm just waiting for change. I'm waiting for our children to look up to someone who is a doctor or a lawyer not a rapper and have more apspirations than to be a rapper. I do understand that most people admire rappers because they come from the same situations but if a rapper wants to impress me, rap about where you came and where you need to go. If I was a rapper that came from the gutta, I would most definitely change my ways and set my goals high instead of staying in the mindset of sex, drugs, and women.
Reply:Hip-hop has stopped talking about positive things and has put a focus on violence, partying, and putting people (women, other artist, etc.) down. It is becoming more about putting out a record for quick cash, rather than making good, real music. There is nothing wrong with making a great club song, but when it speaks about violence and degrading women, it has a huge negative impact on the young crowd that listens to it. I don't listen to it much anymore because there is always so much cursing and so many deragatory terms towards women.
Reply:I am a white male in my mid 20's. I like some hip-hop, but there is some hip-hop that I refuse to like because I feel like it's obscene. I was taught to respect women and to try not to offend people. I feel sorry for the people who can listen to music like this and don't understand why it is immoral. I have heard many black leaders recently standing up against this kind of music and I think it's great. I know it's a long shot saying we can get rid of it, but I think the more stereotypes we can eliminate between races in America, the closer we will get to ending racism.
Reply:It furthers stereotypes about blacks. Promotes black on black violence and degrades women by calling them hoes. But I appreciate the booty shaking and *** grabbing.
Reply:New school sucks, all about old school. You got a very positive vibe from oldschool, now its all about hoes and money.
Reply:To me old school rap and hip-hop was fine, but when everything started being all about gangsta rap and music about how much money one has and having women in barely there clothing and break your ankle shoes shaking their a**es.





It became more negative. It holds no appeal to me whatsoever.
Reply:I don't really understand the point of Hip-Hop, and i think it's a little stupid (you said be honest)
Reply:To me today's music is not hip hop. It is mainstream rap, Hip hop to me is Nas, The roots, Talid Kweli just to name a few. Mainstream rap today is influenced by society, this is what society wants why do you think, It is so big. I am not gonna lie I love to here that music when i am in the club and that is it other than that I love real hip hop. To me it doesn't have any affect positive or negative.

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What does the black rap/hip-hop scene think of white rap/hip-hop fans?

Upon hearing that a few of my friends have taken an interest in learning the "Soulja Boy" dance, I wondered what the black rap/hip-hop fan community would think of this. I have heard things like "whitey can't dance" and it appears that there is a general consideration of white rap/hip-hop fans, or whites that try to emulate the "ghetto" lifestyle as absurd and foolish. Rap music and hip-hop music are just genres, but I am specifically looking for the attitude of the scene. Would a white person be able to walk into a club with more blacks than whites without being kicked out of laughed at? Would a white person be able to dance the "Soulja Boy" dance without being disrespected? I don't know if whites are disrespected for this or not, and I am curious to hear what the followers of the hip-hop scene have to say.

What does the black rap/hip-hop scene think of white rap/hip-hop fans?
The don't think anything but $$$





"Most rappers got new albums that white kids are anticipating"


-Chamillionaire 'Evening News'





These days I think allot of people are over the whole black/white thing its just getting ridiculous... but you are entitled to your opinion.





I think its rather disgusting that people stare at me when I go out with my boyfriend cause he is black.... but oh well.





Some people are just ignorant.
Reply:I can tell when someone is a true fan of rap/hip hop, as oppose to trying to fit in or show off. If they can tell the difference between Rap and Hip Hop (and there is a difference), then I’m cool with them, whether they're African-American or not. Report It

Reply:I think this would depend on which region of the country you are in. Some areas may be more accepting of the white hip hop followers than others. Here in Chicago, from what I see, it's accepted for the most part. However I am sure there are some areas where it is not as acceptable.
Reply:last time I checked this is a free country. lol I don't care if club is full of blacks. im there for fun. clubs are for having fun. if some one causes trouble . that's why I carry my 9mm.
Reply:I wonder that too, because yea im Mexican and White and i look more White though, and im from South Central TX where thers mainly Mexicans and Blacks at my school... and well there was a poll where the class had to make a graph, bout music and the choices were Rap/HipHop, R%26amp;B, Rock, Or Country and i heard a few say ANAS GONA GET COUNTRY OR ROCK! i waslk GWD SUT THE HEAK UP, im a HipHop Luva! it annoys me when they say im a "rock country person"... gosh thats annoyin...
Reply:well no offence peeps look i'm black but spanish any who i know that the african americans as in usa and stuff are more like rude and insultung but it would also depend on the whity


lol if he thinks he's all that never ever go in to a black club it won't be pretty but that ym opinion


What is the origin of hip-hop???

im doing a reasearch on hip-hop and i was wondering if any body can answer these questions:





when did everyone begin to love hip-hop?


how did people react top hip-hop when it was first created?


what is hip-hop excatly?


where did the idea of hip-hop come from

What is the origin of hip-hop???
hip hop came directly off the streets. it evolved from culture and now they reflect each other.


Sugar Hill Gang was one of the pioneers who brought hip hop to the mainstream with "Rapper's Delight"


that should get you started, there is plenty of info out there, do some research.
Reply:f all that other nonsence, CAB CALLOWAY.. look him up, he had a slang dictionary in 1920! he is the first rapper!
Reply:Here ya go.....


http://www.associatedcontent.com/article...
Reply:You could debate this topic for hours depending on what coast your from. East coast believes it started in the Bronx and other there will tell you it started in Queens. Likewise people on the Left coast will tell you that "rap" known to us old skoolers and "hip hop" to new schoolers started in Compton or Southcentral L.A. Most believe that the biggest contributers to the "hip hop" scene were The Last Poets and Africa Bambatta. Myself I started not loving but listening to Hip Hop in 86/87 the baby stages. As for a reaction I couldnt tell you I was just born when it first evolved from the disco/funk era in 1977. There are 4 elements of Hip Hop break dancing, B-boying, graffiti and EmCeeing. To conclude I believe as with all great ideas Hip Hop evolved out of people meeting in a common place to discuss thier ideas and it eventually became an art form.
Reply:all the pioneers of rap will say that james brown was one of many who set the foundation for rap...along with last poets, nikki giovanni and spoken word as a whole...kool herc, afrika bambataa, grandmaster caz and grandmaster flash further developed the art with djing and lightly rhyming over records (i.e. "to da beat yall, and ya dont stop")...coke la rock and clark kent formed the first emcee team in '75 kool herc and the herculoids...kurtis blow was the first rapper to appear on national televison in october '80 on soul train he performed "the breaks"...





james brown's influence was loius jordan who was a jazz musician so it is a continuum...





first off musical tradition was carried over to america by slaves...the music was used in celebrations and rituals...





once here the slaves began to sing spirituals which was called folk music as a whole (indians and europeans also had forms of folk music but it was all called folk music as a whole because of it spiritual base)...





out of this grew blues then gospe l(folk music actually included blues and gospel) ...then ragtime then jazz...r%26amp;b and soul...then rap...





this is an abridged version of what set the foundation for rap music because like stated above the streets influenced rap heavily esp "jive"(a form of speech)...rap has a very rich history cannot credited for having one main influence it is a form of expression that was a form of rebellion against what was going on at the time (just like rock and roll was)...the youth had their own form of music that allowed them to express themselves in a way that was fun, creative and uplifting...